Why Bernard on CH, CHE, andplain old C?

[Drew Hause]

Thanks to all who have replied, and to Bill for starting this thread.
After staring at the (few) labeled sample segments and illustrations available until cross-eyed , I believe Parker offered BOTH Bernard I and Bernard II barrels.

IF there are very distinct "roses" in the pattern, I think we can safely call it Bernard II



The "rough forged tubes" were ordered matched, paired and wired together, and the pattern is difficult to read when "rough forged". Parker Bros. obviously knew what they were ordering, but the subtle differences in the batches supplied by the Belgian makers would not be unexpected.

I could still be wrong, but have changed these documents to reflect that opinion
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...YvzD18i3c/edit
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17227428
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/19025099

[King Cobb]

I just find some of this stuff interesting and curious. Thanks to all the responsents and as always Drew thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

I have no idea what the cost difference labor wise was, but I surmise if Cs had gotten the engraving earlier that they got in the later years, or if all Cs had been roundel engraved, they would have sold a lot more Cs.

[Sara LeFever]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Somebody apparently turned a beautiful A grade, side-cocker with Bernard barrels into a "cowboy action gun" by cutting the barrels down to 22".

The ignorance out there is apalling!!

Anyway, someone bought the gun and fitted fluid steel barrels to it and put these barrels up for sale on doublegunshop.com and I bought them... Why? you might ask.... I have a soft spot for any kind of orphan I guess.

Dean,
Thanks for sharing! That's a darn shame someone cut those barrels! An A grade, side-cocker of all things!
Glad you took them in and appreciate them! They are still impressive on their own.
Sara

[B. Dudley]

Sara. Ask me about those barrels at Rock Mountain, i will tell you more.

[Hammer Gun]

Drew which type is this?

[Drew Hause]

The safe answer would be Bernard Gary
I enhanced the image and am almost sure it's Bernard I



I added the image here as it is a good example to compare with "Rose Pattern" Bernard II
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17227428

[Hammer Gun]

One more this is a grade 4 32" Bernard, in great original shape, Gary

[Hammer Gun]

double and triple click for enlargements

[Drew Hause]

Spectacular Gary, and IMHO also Bernard I

BTW: I do not know if Ken Waite Jr. monitors the Forum, but a high resolution full size close up of pattern No. 15 (like No. 16 that Dean posted) in his Damascus Sample would be extremely helpful.

[Kirk Potter]

This is from a gunmaker out of Boston. (Not mine)