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Unread 07-22-2012, 01:34 AM   #1
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There is a 20 gauge Winchester Model 12 marked "TRAP" solid rib at a local gun shop.
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Unread 07-22-2012, 01:35 PM   #2
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There is a 20 gauge Winchester Model 12 marked "TRAP" solid rib at a local gun shop.
Pump shotguns used to be popular on the trap and skeet ranges. Some forget that when Winchester brought out the model 12 is was in 20 gauge first and they did make trap guns in that gauge. The best had a black diamond inset into the wrist of the gun. They sported vent ribs.

I sometimes shoot my 870 20 gauge at skeet which requires some pretty quick pumping. I seldom buy new shotguns, but I just purchased a factory new Rem 870 Wingmaster and it is a fine little gun. Seems to have old world quality...not cheap either, but what is? Scotch will sat you back $70!!!! (I can't afford to drink the good stuff anymore.)
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Unread 07-22-2012, 09:48 AM   #3
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wont be cheap.... but what to dream for or maybewish for... charlie
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Les Hovencamp, a former Ithaca Gun Company Master Gunsmith is re-chambering my 1927 Ithaca Flues 20 ga right now. It's sweet. Will try to post some photos of it when it comes back from the hospital. Belonged to long deceased uncle who gave up hunting in the late 60's and passed it to me. Been sitting in my gun safe all these years in all original condition and vg to excellent condition. I have a young grandson who will get this when he's ready.
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The Flues was replaced by the NID in the 1925-6 time frame. How is your Flues a 1927?

I think if I had a nice, all original, 20-gauge Flues, with its original 2 1/2 inch chambers, I'd be shooting RST 2 1/2 inch Lites in it.
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Hello Researcher,
My error, the 20 ga was made in 1924, not 1927. Barrels are Belgian steel, Ser# S 377944. Mod and Full chokes. I considered not lengthening the chambers but 2 1/2 shells are not as readily available locally and I didn't want to take the chance that some family member would not try to shoot a 2 3/4 without realizing the difference (and safety issue). The Master Gunsmith (that Ithaca Gun Co referred me to) indicated the lengthening the chambers would not compromise the gun etc.
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my concern with the 20 guage Flues would be the frame - not the barrels with heavier shells, but may be the later ones are stronger
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I gave all the info to the former Ithaca Gun Co. master gunsmith (who specializes in working on Ithaca doubles long out of production) and this should not be a problem. Field loads will be fine.
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