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Unread 10-28-2011, 08:22 AM   #21
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30K gonna have to have bernard barrels and hammers with SG I'll stop there take a while to describe the perfect girl I mean shotgun.
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Unread 10-28-2011, 10:07 AM   #22
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This post is going to show you all how truly uninformed I am but here goes. In the market place, how much does a restock affect the value of a Parker?

Personally, I'd rather have a gun with a broken wrist then one that has been restocked regardless of how great the restock is. I just like guns with the original parts!

Another question I have is whether the value of a gun is affected if it was restocked by Parker as opposed to a modern restock. For example, I have a gun the was built in 1890 and was restocked by Parker in 1893.

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Unread 10-28-2011, 10:26 AM   #23
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Really good question. I think it depends upon the collector and this is a collectors gun. To me a gun high grade Parker that is nor all original , a factory restock is all original, due to a replacement stock is 25-30% less valuable. The higher the condition of the gun the more a replacement stock diminishes the value. It will be interesting to see others answers , especially those that actually collect HG , HC Parkers
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My first wife had her Masters degree in Fine Arts. She'd get all giddy when she saw a Peter Paul Reubens, and all I saw was a fat broad on a couch. On the other hand, show me something, anything, from the Hudson River school and I'm thunderstruck. I'm of the opinion that without variety, we wouldn't be able to recognize what's beautiful to ourselves. The more I see my neighbor's wife, the more I love my dogs.
Whether that AHE has more engraving than other AHEs, I couldn't comment, and it's best left to the experts to debate. I don't claim to know much about too many things, but I do know what makes me go 'oh my'. (actually, I doubt I ever said 'oh my', more like 'damn' or holy s***)

Likewise, If a gun is restocked, and not with a piece of lumber, but with a nice piece of wood that is pleasing to the eye, I can't see how that's a bad bad thing. I couldn't afford that gun, but when placed along side some of the fine Parkers recently put up for auction, It strikes me as nicely priced.
Probably only a couple of PGCA members know what a Land Rover Defender 110 is, but I have been driving one for a dozen years. All 500 ever imported were white. I hate white. The 2nd time I refreshed the truck, I spent a ton to repaint it a proper Land Rover green. I rarely go to car shows, but never to the one that are judged by rivet counters. At people's Choice show's it almost always places first in the Land Rovers, and twice, Best-In-Show. Those are my kind of shows, and those are my kind of people.

Probably, a line-counting checkering expert won't buy that AHE, but maybe someone who says 'oh my' will. Personally, I hope the guy, or girl, that does buy it says "Holy Sh*T"
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Unread 10-28-2011, 11:02 AM   #25
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If I take the asking price for that gun and look it up in the Blue Book it comes out at 10%. That is adding 37.5% for ejectors. The notes say to add between 25% and 50% for ejectors.

95%-$40,000,
90%-$37,500,
80%-$35,000,
70%-$32,500,
60%-$30,000,
50%-$28,500,
40%-$25,000,
30%-$22,500,
20%-$20,000,
10%-$18,000

The above prices are for a gun without ejectors.

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These are the prices above with 37.5 % added and rounded off to the nearest $100.

95% 55,000
90% 51,600
80% 48,100
70% 44,700
60% 41,300
50% 39,200
40% 34,400
30% 30,900
20% 27,500
10% 24,800
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Checkbook gun collectors may pass on that restocked AHE, but a real Parker guy would be pleased to have that gun in his barn.
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She'd get all giddy when she saw a Peter Paul Reubens, and all I saw was a fat broad on a couch. The more I see my neighbor's wife, the more I love my dogs.
Edgar,
You crack me up.
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Didn't say I wouldn't be pleased to own it....but everything has an opportunity cost. At $30K that gun would need to possess its original wood for me to not own $30K worth of other Parkers.

Would I be a better collector if I paid in cash?
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Unread 10-28-2011, 07:23 PM   #30
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If the fair-market value of a well-maintained 58-year-old left testicle was $30K that shotgun would be mine.
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