Super Fox

[Bill Murphy]

Most eights are 3 1/4" chamber, but my Greener Royal is nitro proofed for 3 3/4" shells and 2 1/2 ounces of shot. I have not yet shot game with the Daly or the Greener. However, the geese are flying lower over the house every day.

[charlie cleveland]

bill thats a lot of gun...i believe i would have the 8 setting handy incase...a gun like you have is not seen very often....i watch the tube for 8 s and 4 s they just dont come along to often especially with 3 3/4 chambers...that gun would probably fire 3 ounce of shot ok....ive put a few loads of 3 ounce through destreys old fa loomis...but shooting paper targets it dont take long to use up a pound of shot....in my collection of old brass shells i picked up a 4 inch some where....charlie

[George Lander]

My Super Fox with 32 inch barrels choked full & full weighs in at 10 pounds 4 ounces.

Best Regards, George

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by George Lander

My Super Fox with 32 inch barrels choked full & full weighs in at 10 pounds 4 ounces.

Best Regards, George

-- But with 32" Full & Full and factory ventilated rib, is now easier for me at age 70 to handle- but a Super fox HE is still a "Super" waterfowling gun-- You have good taste George, my friend!

[Bill Murphy]

Francis, my old pre 1913 vent rib 32" Smith is the best handling 32" gun I've ever shot. I guess we must have the only two factory pre-13 32" vent rib Smiths out there. I had never seen or heard of another until I heard about yours. Smith did just a wonderful job on my barrels. Most Smith vent rib guns are such pigs with big ugly beavertails and thick trap stocks.

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Francis, my old pre 1913 vent rib 32" Smith is the best handling 32" gun I've ever shot. I guess we must have the only two factory pre-13 32" vent rib Smiths out there. I had never seen or heard of another until I heard about yours. Smith did just a wonderful job on my barrels. Most Smith vent rib guns are such pigs with big ugly beavertails and thick trap stocks.

I am not a huge fan of the big beavertail forearms on side-by-side guns, to my mind you loose some of the dynamics of a grooved mount and swing- However, as I mainly shoot 12 bores, I don't have the problem of wrapping my hands around a splinter forearm and the smaller barrel configuration of a 28 gauge side-by--

I tried to get this older Smith lettered, but records don't exist- sn is 1074 and the Nitro 32" barrels are stamped with that plus 2E- Later patent ejectors, but not the banjo shaped escutcheon, the later rectangular- checkering about 18 lpi- pg capped and solid red pad- fits me like an Armani suit on a Goombah--three position safety, 3" chambers but not marked so- and NOT a LongRange model- no bushed firing pins, but frame has the older reinforcement rails at the bottom- good solid walnut with grain, ebony tip on splinter--

I love it- for Tower birds, Turkeys, later season mallard and geese (with the Classic loads from Cabela's) and although I have yet to shoot live box birds, I did use it for both rings of the "pigeon ring" clays shoot last summer at Da Yooper- I hit 90% of the clays, BUT-- the ribbon has to fall inside the ring to score, and that was my downfall-but not the gun's fault at all- it loves 1 oz. No 8 RST 2.5" loads-patterns 80% at 40 yards in 36" circle shot after shot, and puts the pattern at about 65% over my POA- and NO middle bead on the rib- I'll bring it to the April shoot, if plans hold up--

[Bill Murphy]

Francis, I haven't shot any box birds with the 32" vent rib Smith, but I'm sure it would do very well. We may have the only two vent rib pre 1913 vent rib Smiths in the USA. Mine is a gem.

[George Lander]

Thanks Francis for them kind words. I'm looking forward to seeing you at the Southern. I am bringing the 4 bore E.M. Reilly if I can get RST to make me up some shells by then. (That is if they'll let me shoot it there)

Best Regards as Always, George

[Bill Murphy]

George, they will let you shoot it there. Four bore rifles are commonly shot in the "milk bottle pit" and our hero Destry shot eight bores at the long bird competition several years back. Eight bore guns have been shot in the Parker versus L.C. Smith Challenge also. Jim Hall was an eight bore shooter in the Challenge. Keep us informed on the four bore ammunition production. There are other four bore owners in PGCA who would be interested.

[charlie cleveland]

george is this e m riely a shotgun or rifle...if i was needing ammo i would contact tom armbrust he is the man to contact for 4 bore and 8 gauge ammo...has a really good book out the 4 and 8 and has lot of reloading info for these big bores.... charlie