Rib legends.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

I believe you're only disagreeing with me because you're an ornery cuss who just likes to wind me up.

Yeah, it is kinda fun...

It was entirely speculative that it was used on one gun, just as it is equally speculative it was used on two, ten or fifty. Until someone produces one, I think it's much closer to none than 50.

I agree with that. (for once.)

During the absence of more important things, I examined the above two "Brothers" guns and despite being nearly 90,000 guns apart, I would feel confident in saying both ribs were impressed by the very same roll die. Austin and John's guns fall in between my two. I am sure they rolled up a mess of ribs at once, but can't guess whether the the Brothers were separated from the Bros.

And up until this time we have only seen examples in VH or VHE with Vulcan Steel barrels.

Does anyone have a guess as to the life of the Meriden roll dies, i.e. how many ribs could be impressed before it was determined to be worn out (or as we have occasionally seen, broken)?

I don't know the answer to that but I'll speculate 'a long, long time. There are a great number of Parkers that have a barrel stamp weight of 4 lbs., and some ounces. The 4 has a chipped off diagonal line where the vertical and horizontal lines would be connected but instead it looks a bit like a strange "German Cross." I'm sure Parker Bros. knew about the chipped die that left that imperfect 4 but they chose, for whatever reason, not to replace it for the longest time.

But I do like crankin' you up





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[Ralph English]

Brian, The stamp that Doug had built for me appears as follows: THE PARKER BROTHERS GUN. The arrows are pointed inward and have five veins in the fletching.

[chris dawe]

Perhaps this was already offered up ,but you guys mentioned the lefever shop who would at one time make /sleeve new barrels for Parker gun ...perhaps they had the die made up to distinguish their work in some way .

[B. Dudley]

Barrels that i have seen that were finished and matted by Lefever not been roll stamped. They were just full matted. But that is just based on the few that i have seen.

I will inquire with one contact i have (a former Lefever emplyee) as to if he knew that they had the dies and if they used them.

[Dean Romig]

I presume Doug has no explanation?





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[B. Dudley]

I have not asked doug. I was not speaking with him when i was reviewing what they had available.

[Bill Murphy]

I have a DH Parker that has a roll stamp (as I recall it is rolled) that says "Lefever Steel". I'll dig it out when I get a little time. It is a twelve gauge #3 frame sleeved by Lefever to 3 1/2" magnum ten gauge. The stamping is very professionally done. It looks like it was done at Parker Brothers.

[DoubleOframe]

From speaking with Doug and Keith V. over the years they would have new roll dies manufactured for special projects. It could be that this is not an original Parker roll die but one that was made for a unique restoration or custom job. Some pics of the roll dies at Turnbull Mfg.

[B. Dudley]

Did the stamp have "brothers" or just "the parker gun". If so, it is not the same stamp.

[edgarspencer]

This just gets betterer and betterer.