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Unread 08-17-2010, 07:20 PM   #1
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Wally,
I find it interesting that your barrel attachment is of a somewhat different style than mine. Also my gun was built six years after yours yet the cost of the swivels dropped to $3.50. Do you have the original swivels?
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Unread 08-18-2010, 11:33 PM   #2
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This gun letters all the way!!! I had a "forum member" try to talk me out of the gun at a cheap price because he siad he had a letter on the gun and it was cut on both ends. I am not attempting to sell the gun but I want to post this letter so the "gentleman" can see what he aint getting!

Also, as far as I know, the person who (falsely) claimed to have a letter on my gun is listed as a 'forum member" but he may be a PGCA member.

I really appreciate the kind words about this gun and the help you have given me in researching the original owner. I am in this for the history, beautiful guns, and the friends I have been able to make along the way.
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Wally, Interesting and Sad that someone here claimed to have a "letter" and information on your Parker that diminished it's originality, which was then followed by a Low-Ball offer to buy it from you.... Unfortunately yours is not an isolated incident, I've also experienced this first hand, and have spoken to several others here with similar accounts of someone who claimed to have certain (misleading & false) Parker information in a dishonest attempt to buy their guns on the cheap...

On a brighter note, you certainly have found a great 2-barrel set with some outstanding history... Please keep us updated on any further provenance you might discover on James W. Byrnes in the future... You mentioned earlier that you were "in this for the history"..... The campaign photo image below indicates James W. Byrnes was a candidate for Mayor of St Louis in the early 1920's... Hope this helps put a face to the man who originally ordered your very unique DHE....

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I'm not surprised at all that ejectors for a Parker are priced so high. Consider the fact that an entirely different forend assembly is required with so many extra parts fitted and timed perfectly to the gun as well as the doll's head with milled guide grooves and the mortised stop plate being necessary to the operation of the ejectors. Also required are the holes drilled in the front of the frame along with the addition of perfectly fitted rods which protrude from the holes in the frame to trip the ejector mechanism in the forend when the gun is fired. It's really quite an elaborate system.
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Dean I agree that it's an elaborate system but the extra parts involved easily fit into the palm of your hand. Also a couple extra holes or milled slots in a part that is already fixtured to be machined does not amount to very much as compared to the materials and labor involved in the manufacture of the entire gun.
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Austin, That Jimmy Byrnes was from South Carolina. Perhaps they are related. David
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Wally: James F. "Jimmy" Byrnes was a former Governor of South Carolina. Before that he was Secretary of State under President Truman although he had switched parties from Democrat to Republican when he refused to join the Ku Klux Klan. He was an intimate friend and hunting partner of Bernard Baruch at Hobcaw Barony near Georgetown, South Carolina. You have a beautiful and valuable Parker. You should order a letter on it and track down it's history.

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George, "hegotim" a letter. It is available for your viewing pleasure on this thread.
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Thanks Bill: I didn't look at the first page of the thread. This is a neat gun. I wonder how may Parkers would letter as two barrel sets?

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George, I have a DH #3 frame two barrel Damascus set very similar to Wally's gun that letters. It is one big gun. I have the front half of an 1897 CH two barrel Bernard set that letters to a dealer in Charleston. Thanks to John Davis, it is now mated up with a very nice DH skeleton butt back end. Those are the only lettered two barrel sets I have owned.
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Larry; Babe and Lawrence showed me the ejector drilling jig. They also told me they had worked on a 5 digit s/n gun that was drilled with the manufacturing jig, not the retrofit jig.

George; I once had four two barrel sets; grades 1,2,3,4. I am not sure what you consider as "lettering". Two were ordered as two barrel sets, and two had second barrel sets fitted a short time after delivery. One is a one gauge, two steel match weight set; one is a one steel two gauge match weight set, one a two gauge, two steel upland and waterfowl set, and the newest a one steel, one gauge upland and waterfowl set.

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