Short 10 Bismuth load

[Mark Garrett]

Originally Posted by William Davis

Just patterned both barrels in my Parker 10 Hammer gun with 1 1/8 oz 7 1/2 and 22.5 Green Dot. SP 10 Wad with a 1/2 inch 16 G fiber wad bottom of the shot cup.

Patterns are nearly identical to RST factory 1 1/8 oz # 8 with less recoil. Difference in the shot size is obvious but still plenty of pellets in the pattern.

No crono yet, am going to load up 25 and shoot some clays with them first

Thanks all

William

William , which hull did you use ?

[William Davis]

RST's Red ones, Chedditte made. When ahead and loaded 50 And filled in with 50 more using new primed unfired Cheddites cut down to 2 7/8 inch from 3 1/2 inch.

Another 25 Spreaders roll crimped from Brown RST's cut down, head stamp says "USA' so guessing they are Federals. Loaded the Spreader shells with # 9 considering am only going to use them under 20 yards. Now need to load another dozen spreader shells with 7 1/2 for Rabbits

Going to shoot a round of Clay's Sat, figured might as well give the load a full trial.

William

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by Mark Garrett

Got this back form Tom Armburst if anyone is interested. Not as fast or as much pressure as I had hope for, but, Unigue is pretty predictable so I can easily increase the powder charge and get what I need . Should be a good load to work off of.

This is a great short ten waterfowl load. The components are readily available and come together very efficiently. I particularly like the relatively heavy (1 3/8 oz) payload. I felt confident shooting this load at ducks. Cannot say the same for some of the other lighter/weaker 10 gauge loads I have tried.

Merry Christmas!

[Mark Garrett]

Victor , glad the load worked well for you . I really like it myself . Has worked well for ducks with #4 & 5 and used it for geese last year with #1 .

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Mark Garrett

Got this back form Tom Armburst if anyone is interested. Not as fast or as much pressure as I had hope for, but, Unigue is pretty predictable so I can easily increase the powder charge and get what I need . Should be a good load to work off of.

Mark I tried loading your tested recipe for 1 3/8 ounce bismuth you posted here. I wonder if there are significant differences between Remington hulls. With 24 grains of Unique and the SP-10 wad in the dark green Remington hull there was no way I could use a fold crimp, a roll crimp is necessary for that load.

[Mark Garrett]

Pete , The Rem hulls I used for that load where purchased new and cut to length . Don't remember where I bought them , maybe Precision Reloading .

What color are the hulls you are using , dark green or metallic green ?

I know in 16ga Green Rems the base wad height between Steel shot hulls and Lead shot hulls is different .

Also the only filler used in that load is "1" .030 16ga osc in the cup.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Mark Garrett

Pete , The Rem hulls I used for that load where purchased new and cut to length . Don't remember where I bought them , maybe Precision Reloading .

What color are the hulls you are using , dark green or metallic green ?

I know in 16ga Green Rems the base wad height between Steel shot hulls and Lead shot hulls is different .

Also the only filler used in that load is "1" .030 16ga osc in the cup.

I found an olive drap Remington hull with a black brass head, your load fold crimped fine with that hull. The metallic or forest green hull requires a roll crimp. I bought the metallic/forest green hulls unfired and primed from either Precision Reloading or Ballistic Products 5+ years ago. I am not concerned, I shot one forest green roll crimp I loaded the other day with 24gr Unique and the recoil, boom, and fired primer were all normal. Thanks for sharing your testing information.

[Mark Garrett]

Glad you got it worked out.