Experimental Ejector B Grade???

[Dean Romig]

It is interesting however, that in Fischer's patent drawings he titles it "Ejector For Breakdown Firearms" but he most definitely uses a Parker Bros. hammerless shotgun as a template for his drawings, so it is obvious that he had an affinity for the Parker shotgun.

[Bruce Day]

I used to live in Grand Forks. There were several Fischer modified Parkers left in the area.

This is another Fischer modified Parker. Not a prototype, not experimental. Similar to Miller single trigger conversions, some people had ideas to improve Parker shot guns. Old Fischer advertisements for doing these ejector modifications can be found. He was a local gunsmith and this was part of his livelihood.

With all the gunsmiths that had their own ideas, you could get Nydar sights, Sellious PG plates, through bolts as a preventative measure, padded butts, fat fore ends, or even chop the barrels.

[Researcher]

Pictures the late Dr. Gaddy sent me of the M & W ejectors --





In that Parker Bros. were very late in offering ejector guns, and their early ejector catalogues stated "EJECTORS CANNOT BE FITTED TO ANY GUNS NOW IN FINISHED CONDITION." So, this left a cottage industry for inventive gunsmiths.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Thanks Dave
Gosh I miss Oscar but that is a topic for another thread.

[Kevin McCormack]

The ejector system shown is most likely a modification of Fischer's patent installed by M & F or possibly Joseph Singer of Los Angeles, both of whom specialized in "pre-aftermarket" modifications, particularly Parkers (e.g., hardened boltplate modifications, ejectors, etc. long before they were done in Meriden

It's not a Southgate system since that one doesn't use coil springs (leaf only) and its not an original Baker patent (English, not USA) since the Baker patent housed the individual coil springs in small cylindrical metal sleeves or tubes. When the gun was opened, a nub on the face of the action engaged the end of the ejector tube and lifted it up until the stop on the end of the ejector shaft was freed, and the spring inside the tube forced the ejector shaft out ejecting the spent shell. Oscar's photos clearly show the giveaway indicator of pre- and/or after-market ejector installation - the tiny pinhead of the metal shaft just barely discernable in the forward rim of the orbit of the recessed hinge pin.

[Cold Spring]

M&W advert in the Nov 14, 1903, issue of the American Field.

[Researcher]

By the Nov. 17, 1906, issue of The American Field, Gus Habich was doing the M&W ejectors and Francis Moran had hooked up with F.P. Stannard.



In the same issue, some good shooting by F.P. Stannard's brother --



who was later part of the Jostam Mfg. Co., maker of recoil pads, was reported.

[Philip Peart]

Well I have searched extensively for any further info on Christian A Fischer and his Ejector system without any luck, But I truly enjoy the uniqueness of this gun and I am going to restore it to its former glory leaving the ejectors intact. My local gunsmith and avid Parker collector is going to assist me in the careful journeyand I am going to get a letter on the gun to gather a bit more detail on it.
Thanks to all who contributed your knowledge and info and I look forward to learning so much more from all of you during my Parker journeys.

[Cold Spring]

Apparently "Wolfersperger" was changed to "Wolf" by March 19, 1904 ..... at least for mail. Easier to pronounce, more PC for 1904 shooters?


Here's a Parker advert referencing ejectors, dated March 26, 1904.

[Researcher]

and Francis Moran had hooked up with F.P. Stannard.

Brain fart!! Should have said Matthew E. Moran!!