VHE Trap

[J.B. Books]

Ya never know Dave, remember a while back there was an otherwise nice SA trap with a ported barrel for sale on there.

[Autumn Daze]

Got that right Pete.I remember that gun!

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

Some day we'll probably see a Parker trap gun with a recoil reducing adjustable stock (looks like prosthetic limb) for sale on gunbroker

That's not as far-fetched as you might think. A GHE was offered to me about two years ago with just such a stock. I said to the guy, "Do I look crazy?" He replied, "I didn't think you'd want it but I just had to ask." I never even asked to see the gun.

Hey Dean oh Dean where are you? Seriously I hold Massachusetts in much higher esteem since the Senate race was decided

Me too! And the outcome of that race was determined by independant-thinking voters, not Republicans or right-wingers.

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[Autumn Daze]

Francis,Let me help you decipher this: Crow shooting should go in the Hunting section. While I love a Model 12 and I shoot one quite often at best this should be in the Other Fine Doubles section.Out of this whole diatribe the only thing "On Topic" is your sixth paragraph.As I am not getting any younger I really don,t want to spend the rest of my time reading diatribes.

Francisco,I you really want to "make friends and influence people" keep it short and to the point.......Please.....

[J.B. Books]

That's not as far-fetched as you might think. A GHE was offered to me about two years ago with just such a stock. I said to the guy, "Do I look crazy?" He replied, "I didn't think you'd want it but I just had to ask." I never even asked to see the gun.

Actually that is one that we needed a picture of, sort of Ripley's Believe or Not Parker. LOL

[John Liles]

Sounds as though some one might be wanting to relocate to Sans-Francisco. Sorry, I just couldn't help it!

[Autumn Daze]

[Austin W Hogan]

Returning to Dennis' original query: what constitutes a Parker Trap Gun?

We credit our good friend and frequent contributor Ken Waite Jr on this.

Ken had a very nice display of Parker trap/live bird guns at the last Vintagers Concours at Sandanona. The lighting in the display area was not good, but we carried photos of the display in Parker Pages. There were straight grips pistol grips auto safeties and no safeties and several grades mixed through this display.
We carried a tabulation of dimensions and weights of guns used at a major tournament in the Iron Men series again contributed by Ken
Mark Conrad searched the archives for several names in Iron Men and did identify guns purchased by those individuals. These usually specified stock dimensions, and sometimes trigger pull; many were returned for pattern adjustment.
We have been able to examine a few guns sold by DuBray and made to measurements obtained at a shooting event. No safety, trigger pull and cast are sometimes noted in these orders. We have also had the coincidence of the availabity of a bore gauge and a DuBray ordered gun. The bore gauge read .740 and found some "different" choke tapers as noted in the most recent Parker Pages on some occassions. We do not have sufficient measurements to determine the frequency of the 740 bore in DuBray competitor orders.

The sum of all this is that there is no physical feature that uniquely identifies a Parker trap gun. This takes us to the accompanying thread. What type of provenance significantly ties a Parker gun to a competitive event?

Best, Austin

[J.B. Books]

One of the features Mark noted for my gun that was ordered in "Trap Configuration" was 2 5/8" chambers were specified. This was my first research letter where chamber length was mentioned. Again the gun is from 1928. I am guessing that 2 3/4" 12ga was available at that time but had not become standard and the person ordering the gun wanted shorter chambers for performance reasons or planned to shoot 2 5/8" loads.

Chamber length for awhile was another variable for "trap" guns or so it appears.

[Bill Murphy]

A 1928 12 gauge gun with 2 5/8" chambers was not likely to have been chambered that way to shoot 2 5/8" shells.