HEAD'S UP! J. JULIA CATALOGUE IS NOW ONLINE!

[Opening Day]

"Do they say how they will "warrant" the gun ?"

Thirty seconds or thirty feet whichever comes first.....

[George Lander]

Robert & Eric: What the catalogue says & I quote: "James D. Julia will guarantee clear title to the buyer of the gun now and in the future."

I believe that says it all.

Best Regards, George

[Robert Rzepiela]

thanks George.

Well, this mean absolutely nothing.

Problem is that modern insurance companies rarely "disappear". There is always a value in policy holders and premiums they pay, so when there is trouble in the business, state regulators step in and sell assets to another insurance company. Kind of like what is going on with failing banks now on Federal level. The sign changes on the brick, rest stays the same.

Well, if someone has ~200K to spent on an old gun, they have much
better lawyers on retainers than I could ever efford.

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by George Lander

Robert & Eric: What the catalogue says & I quote: "James D. Julia will guarantee clear title to the buyer of the gun now and in the future."

I believe that says it all.

Best Regards, George

Well George considering what they did to me, Mr Julia saying clear title means very and mean very little to me..... I learned the hard way with him...

[James Brown]

The "guarantee" should be in writing, specific to the buyer and carefully drafted to bind
the heirs, administrators, executors, successors and assigns of the Guarantor and the Guarantor's corporation, otherwise the buyer could have a tough litigation row to hoe if a claim had to be made.
JMHO, James.

[Bruce Day]

George, see what you started? I know, you thought you were just giving a heads up so that if people were interested, they might find a nice Parker at the Julia auction.
But its kind of like a stock car race; the crowds are attracted to the noise and roar and waiting for a bloody wreck.

[George Lander]

Bruce: My Daddy once told me: "You can please some of the people all of the time. You can please all of the people some of the time. You will never, however, please all of the people all of the time" and "No good deed goes unpunished".

Eric: I am sorry for you bad experience with Julia's. I have bought from them a number of times and have been most satisfied. If I were you I would direct my complaint directly to Jim Julia by registered mail. It's possible that you were dealing with some flunky.

Best Regards, George

I do NOT know Mr. Julia, but his firm does have an excellent reputation. I do know Eric, and so does he. It is unfortunate that this problem Eric reported to us occured, and looking at from maybe not a objective but an outsider's view, and with that great 20-20 hindsight- it would seem that someone, possibly without Mr. Julia's direct knowledge, "dropped the ball" re: The 16 DHE Eric apparently purchased.

IMO here, if Julia's had their "usual??" mix of fine doubles sans the reported "Bo Whoop" up for next Month's auction, perhaps not so much tempest in the teapot. In it very insightful that so many members here, at least by my count anywas, are well informed as to how the Insurance Companies operate- apparently there is no statute of limitations as to possible claim to this famous shotgun by the Buckingham family heirs, etc.

I think it is also safe to say that anyone with the "deep pockets" to be in the bidding for such a storied shotgun will most likely have some first rate legal counsel on retainer to guide him on this. In fairness to Mr. Julia, if I have read this thread correctly, especially from friend George Lander who has apparently dealt with same gentleman in the past, if he is going stand behind this sale, and has said so "publicly" then, in the words of the Bard: "Now cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war" even those of the National in the Hobart Ames era-

[Opening Day]

"If I were you I would direct my complaint directly to Jim Julia by registered mail. It's possible that you were dealing with some flunky."

George, Bill Taylor was the man that measured the bores (I talked to him directly) at the Vintagers I talked to Wes Dillion who talked to Mr Julia so I guess I would not consider those men "flunky's" No they made a big mistake and would not agree that they did anything wrong granted it was a couple of months after the fact. But if you buy a gun like the Bo Whoop and find out six months or a year and get taken to court, I don't think Julia's is going to be very helpful. I agree with James Brown if everything is not in writting I would not touch that gun regardless what Mr Julia guarantee's cause I think you would be