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Unread 01-26-2013, 11:07 AM   #11
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how many working outfitters will have a tough year ahead due to their rightfull choice to stand up for our rights.

this just the beginning

NY's Sheriff's assoc. just released a letter to the govenor stating although they support the mental health provisions and stiffer penalties for breaking exisiting laws. The rest of the NY bill is bad law poorly made and added they will not participate in confiscation and will as sworn to - support the constitution.
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Jent, according to wikipedia the PA Farm Show building is owned by the PA Dept. of Agriculture.
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Mayor Thompson, what a joke of a mayor she is. The city is just about bankrupt and she say's everything is going well

Can you tell what her political party is? I won't comment about about what I really think.
Go ahead Chuck tell us how you really feel....You're among friends. She is just an example of another liberal, pin-headed politician who could'nt hold a job in the private sector. The longer I live the more I realise that liberalism is a mental disorder. I now know how Patrick Henry, John Adams and the rest of the founding fathers felt towards the English and King George and it ain't good.
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You all are making me glad I live in the Deep South, although we have our fair share of problems too.
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Do you have liberals in the South that feel they have a birth right to a political position? We seem to have that recurring problem here in Massachusetts. No experience required, just have the right last name.
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I wish it was the "right" name. Unfortunately it is a "left" name
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Hey, I hate to pee into a fan here but does anyone have any thoughts on how this whole thing shakes out in the end. You hear and read of alot of people calling for the end of private firearm ownership, In reality this is not even a plausible statement. Now we have pea brain polititians sacrificing the economic gains of their city to prove a point. A sacrifice of tax paying citizens over something that is perfectly legal. I think it hits the fan here folks these people are serious and have no idea. God help us is right. Get a pro gun promoter in here and lets move on. Why would you not use one at an outdoors show in the first place, Good Lord man.
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Do you have liberals in the South that feel they have a birth right to a political position? We seem to have that recurring problem here in Massachusetts. No experience required, just have the right last name.


Georgia had Eugene and Herman Talmadge. In SC, the politicians live so long, they don't need a dynasty (Strom Thurmond). Thank God Huey Long didn't start a dynasty.

Maybe one of your good gun shows will move to Savannah. All we have is the Eastman Gun and Knife show and you are hard pressed to find a gun not made of plastic, let alone a Parker
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Maybe one of your good gun shows will move to Savannah. All we have is the Eastman Gun and Knife show and you are hard pressed to find a gun not made of plastic, let alone a Parker
Amen to that sentiment. The Eastman folks are making a killing over this. Every gun show has people wrapped around the building. I bet they walk 20000 people through the door every day of every show, or even more. The tables are full of nothing but glocks, XD's, M&P's, t-shirts, over priced 22 ammo, quadruple priced "black" rifles, $1500 AK47's(wish I had been buying those back when they were $100), with a few scattered and rare beat to hell LC Smith 12ga's someone found in the back of a barn that the seller thinks is worth $1200.

Finding a nice Parker at a Georgia gun show is less likely than doubling on Ruffed Grouse down here. It can happen, but you pay forward many good deeds before the Karma comes back to you.
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Hey, I hate to pee into a fan here but does anyone have any thoughts on how this whole thing shakes out in the end. You hear and read of alot of people calling for the end of private firearm ownership, In reality this is not even a plausible statement. Now we have pea brain polititians sacrificing the economic gains of their city to prove a point. A sacrifice of tax paying citizens over something that is perfectly legal. I think it hits the fan here folks these people are serious and have no idea. God help us is right. Get a pro gun promoter in here and lets move on. Why would you not use one at an outdoors show in the first place, Good Lord man.
John, I'm not an attorney so take this for what its worth - very little. I know what I think ought to happen, but you can't pretend to know anything after Roberts turned his back on the country over Obamacare.

I believe the Heller decision stated it would be unconstitutional to ban a classification of firearms, firearms which are in common use, and any parts which are integral to the operation of the firearm. That might not have all come under one decision, but I'm pretty sure the court has already ruled on all three points. To me that makes it pretty clear that Congress can't ban "assault weapons" again such as happened in 1994. At that time, the Supreme Court was not structured favorably. That is the reason the NRA didn't pursue overturning the law back in the 90's. Today they would proceed full bore ahead as quickly as possible.

The two options are to use Robert's "you can tax anything" approach to place a high tax on possession of certain items (AR's, high capacity mags) but I don't know that the question has ever been settled on the constitutionality of placing a tax on the citizens before giving them approval to exercise their constitutional rights. The idea that it is okay for Congress to basically rewrite the 2nd Amendment to say, "Keep and bear arms so long as you have paid $xxx" doesn't seem quite right. This reminds me of the people on the left who say economically challenged minorities are disenfranchised by laws requiring them to show ID before voting because they can't afford identification. Laughable, but then shouldn't the same also be true of their proposed tax on assault weapons?

To me, the crux of the argument is that the left wants to say the public shouldn't own "implements of war". Hogwash. The very reason for the 2nd amendment is to protect the people's right to own those same implements of war being used not only by our government but also by foreign governments. Military use should offer protection under the common use provision of the Heller decision. I hope the large cap magazines would fall under that same category. My opinion is that the current structure of the court supports my view of the 2nd amendment. I was even confident enough that I cashed in on the hysteria by selling my AR10's for triple what I had invested.

The common use provision of the Heller Decision was the most interesting to me. I think the door has been opened to eliminate the current ban on short barreled rifles and shotguns, as those are currently in common use by our military.
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