A question of pressure and length

[John Farrell, Charter Member #33]

Since you are just getting started, heed the advice of those on this forum about low pressure loads in the older 16 gauge gun. Also, think about making 2.5" hulls using a hull cutter such as the Ballistic Products old model Trim Doctor (if they still have them) to trim the hulls back. Then look at Precision Reloading's 16 gauge roll crimping tool that is held in a hand drill or drill press to make a nice roll crimp.

[Harold Pickens]

Go to www.16ga.com---the 16ga society and onto the reloading forum. You will find a variety of posts from spr310 and can go to spreadsheets with 100's of 16 ga loads. You can put in you8r hull type or your wad and get many good loads. There is also a spreadsheet of low pressure loads which is invaluable. I have all 3 on my computer favorites and can bring them up in seconds.
I use the DR16 wad with 7/8oz loads in my 16's, using low pressure loads with either PB or green dot powders, loading 2 3/4" Rem. Game Loads. Personally, I dont see the need to mess with cutting shells down to 2 1/2, but the RST's are great shells.
I also load 12 and 20's with light loads and they are just fine for clays and grouse size birds---and there is a hell of alot less recoil.
Shoot straight and shoot often.

[Matt Valinsky]

Well, this month certainly has been a month to remember. Made a purchase on a long awaited Parker, actually two, both Trojan grade guns. I'm tickled pink to say the least.

On top of that, Santa found my chimney and dropped off a MEC sizemaster in 12ga. What else could a guy ask for? Well, maybe one in 16ga. would be nice also. But, hey, I'm not gonna push it.

I want to thank everyone for the info. I can see it's gonna take a little a bit to digest all this. I do know i have an outlet for about 200 12ga. AA shells once fired from a friend who used to reload, he might have some 16ga., but he's not sure.

I think this is gonna be fun.

Paul, I'm about 30 miles S.E. of Columbus. I don't think anything this winter is going to happen with me winding down at work. This summer will be a different story. Thanks for the invite.

In general, where do you folks find the best place to buy componets from a cost stand point?

Again, thanks, Matt

[Double Lab]

The wad that Kensal mentioned from Downrange is called the DR16 and it can handle loads from 3/4-1 oz. in a variety of hulls. Great wad.

[Paul Harm]

My club puts in an order about 4 times a year from Dawson Enterprises . Because we have a sales tax license we get whole sale prices. They're in Ohio - 7191 Nave Rd. S.W.
Massillon, Oh 44646. Phone # 330-833-0014. Retail is pick up at the store. We're kind of spoiled - no sales tax and no delievery charges.

[Paul Harm]

Daryl, I was on their web site - there's no load data on it for the DR16. Do they give you some with the order ?

[Double Lab]

Paul;
The best place to find info for this wad is the website 16ga society. I have it tucked away somewhere in this computer and I will attempt to forward what info I have within the next day or two.

[Double Lab]

Paul;
Thought I'd post this for anyone who is interested. You'll find the info on a chart towards the end of the post on the 16ga. topic I saved to my computer. One of the members of the 16ga. society sent these loads to Tom Armbrust, a ballistician, who tested them. They are very nice loads. I happen to have 2-3k of the black Rem. game loads (they are referred to as RGL's), lots of 20/28 powder which I also use for 20 and 28ga. loads and of course the DR16 wads. I reduced the payload down to 3/4oz from 7/8oz just to save money. Hope this helps, if not feel free to PM me or e-mail direct- dcorona28@gmail.com.
Regards,
Daryl

[Kensal Rise]

Paul:
The clays load I use for the Downrange 16 wad is:

Rem black hull
Win 209 primer
14.8 grs. of International Clays (MEC Bushing No. 22)
7/8 oz. of No. 8

Sub No. 6 shot for hunting.

Best, Kensal

[Paul Harm]

Thanks, I'll keep all the info for my 16ga friends.