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Unread 08-29-2012, 09:50 PM   #1
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For lack of better term, Disclamers like, This does not assume safety of the firearm, can't measure/be sure of barrel thickness, can't tell if on/off face, can't measure choke, is it factory installed or repaired, all effecting value considerably. This is not an in hand appraisal for resale value only an educated opinion from pictures posted. Things like that.
I like the idea, I think it would be a popular thread. I know I would read it- although I think I read every thread on here now
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Unread 08-30-2012, 07:37 AM   #2
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Maybe we should refer to it as a "Collective Opinion" of value?
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Without measurements and documentation of originality, a $10,000 gun could be worth $2,000 as a parts gun. I think it would be a great idea on another forum, just for fun of course. Why don't we try it on the shotgunworld.com "Classic shotguns" subforum. Someone post a picture of a gun not for sale and invite appraisals and criticisms.
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Unread 08-29-2012, 10:03 PM   #4
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I don't agree with the for members only. People join your forum because they like the information they recieve and the help they get from other members, weather they are forum members or PGCA members. I am just a member for now but Brian Dudly helped me out whan I bought my 10ga and that will probable be the reason I become a PGCA member. What I meant about the camera was that you can take a picture of a stock and not show a hairline crack or take a picture of the inside of the bore and it will show up bright and shinny but the last inch of the muzzle will be pitted. These are some of the reasons no gun dealer will tell you what your gun is worth. Just my HMO.
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Sorry I cut my self short on my last comment. Meant to say no gun dealer will appraise your gun without having it in hand.
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Unread 08-29-2012, 10:13 PM   #6
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What Mr. Suponski said.
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Alright, I'll bite the worm. I'm a new member here and I really respect the Parker fans, I'm just not a big American gun fan myself. (If I were, it'd be Parkers and Fox)

I'm an English gun fanatic and traded off one of my guns. The buyer fell short of cash he needed to make the deal so I took a Parker in partial trade.

Soooo, what's the gun worth? It's a 1906 era Parker VH with perfect bores and great wall thickness all around. 12 bore, 2.75" chambers. .042" heavy choke in both bores. .027" bore diameter in both. The gun is as new and was purportedly fully restored by Delgrego. Full, perfect case colors (correct look), all metal is perfect. Screws are timed. 30" barrels, #2 frame. Clearly a fowling gun if there ever was one. Pistol grip.

The wood has been restored and gets an B+/A- grade. Crisp checkering. Ugly pachmyer recoil pad should probably go away. Other than that, gun is in 98% condition.

What price do I value the gun at for insurance, and in this economy, what price do I ask to sell such a gun within 30 days? (reasonably motivated sale)

Thanks for the education!

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Not sure I can see any benefit when balanced with potential negatives.

Probably requires a lot more thought...

Too many opinions and egos = lots of ruffled feathers.
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Isn't this like asking the fat kid to watch the cake?
Although these appraisals aren't binding, as the owners of similar firearms, many of which are or soon may be for sale (I've seen pictures of you guys), won't wishful thinking tend to skew objectivity?

That being said, I do enjoy the posted pictures and the opportunity to see others' Parkers.
Please keep 'em coming.
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The reason I suggested it be done in a members only forum is to prevent the clever troll who is actually looking to sell a gun disguised manner in an "open" forum area.

As far as safety concerns, check the recent threads on barrel wall thickness, when we discuss that issue we are sometimes giving recomendations a gun is shootable. Same with composite barrel considerations, many us say it's OK. What new safety area could be be covering that we don't already.

Perhaps the appraisal could be done as a poll, with members voting on what they feel the appropriate range of value is, perhaps broad, <$1000, then in $500 increments and for the most valuable guns simply >$10,000,with the idea that a gun above this range really should have a formal in hand appraisal done.
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