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Unread 01-08-2025, 10:04 AM   #1
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My observations have been that most 28ga 28" barrels are mod/full. There are exceptions, but they are far & few between. Many of these have had the chokes opened over the years, simply because they were too darn tight from the factory, so when looking at a used gun, it may be marked Mod/full, but you really need to know the actual constrictions for seeing if they have been opened. Personally, I wouldn't hesitate buying a 28" mod/full gun if the rest of it was what I was looking for because the chokes can be opened as needed. This is what I did when I opened the constrictions on it to .005" & .009" and am happy that I did, the gun has served me well ever since.

20ga 28" barrels are easier to find in chokings other than mod/full with many of them IC/Mod.

The fun is in hunt, but you do need to ask the appropriate questions up front before you pull the trigger on the purchase.
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20ga 28" barrels are easier to find in chokings other than mod/full with many of them IC/Mod.

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Paul, where are you finding the many 20ga. Repros w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M? Can you link us to a couple of them?
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Paul, where are you finding the many 20ga. Repros w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M? Can you link us to a couple of them?
In comparison to 28ga 28" barrels. I have seen more 20ga 28"barrels choked something other than mod/full than I have 28ga ones, but they are still far from common.

I guess I should have been more concise in my statement.
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I believe we can agree that we've seen many more 20ga. 28" Repros factory choked Q1/Q2 than we have seen those that were 28" and factory choked IC/M.

As far as the 28ga. guns go, I have pics of the only two that I feel are righteous 28" factory choked Q1/Q2 guns, but do not recall any 28" IC/M. There was one gun about two years ago that we discussed that was choked IC/IC. It has been reported that there maybe more Q1/Q2 guns out there, but so far they seem to be as elusive as the 12ga. 28" factory choked Q1/Q2 guns.

Shown below is one of only a couple of 20ga. Repros w/28" bbls. that I've come across that have been claimed to be factory choked IC/M. But, in each case the choke designation stamps, to my eyes, are very suspect. (Note the choke designation area appears to have been struck off, restamped and no period after IMP).
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I would be hard pressed to believe that was the original stamping.
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It's pretty obvious the original marking have been ground off & chokes restamped.
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Can anyone here show us a 28ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls., other than the below consecutive numbered pair, factory choked Q1/Q2 or IC/M?

In addition can anyone here show us a 20ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M?

Oh, one more thing, can anyone here show us a 12ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked Q1/Q2?
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Beautiful pair!! Are those yours?
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I would buy those guns, or even one of them.
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One note to the OP...

I've got a 28ga two barrel set (26" IC/M and 28" M/F). The choke constrictions are more akin to those you would see on a 12ga gun, so they pattern quite tightly. It's not much of an exaggeration to say that you could drive a nail with the full choke barrel.

That said, I prefer the swing of the longer barrel set, and using spreader loads has made it useful on good-flying plantation quail.

Good luck in your search!
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