Range day with the Parker 10 gauges

[J. Scott Hanes]

The Cheddite primers are notorious for piercing in certain firearms in the Trapshooting world. There seems to be quite a variance in primer cup thickness which would explain why not every shell had the pierced primer.

The real issue with such piercing is erosion of the firing pin over time. The gases coming back out of the primer are several thousand degrees and will make the tip of the firing pin brittle and eventually crack off pieces. This is an issue that is resolved by either shortening the firing pin or switching primers.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by J. Scott Hanes

The Cheddite primers are notorious for piercing in certain firearms in the Trapshooting world. There seems to be quite a variance in primer cup thickness which would explain why not every shell had the pierced primer.

The real issue with such piercing is erosion of the firing pin over time. The gases coming back out of the primer are several thousand degrees and will make the tip of the firing pin brittle and eventually crack off pieces. This is an issue that is resolved by either shortening the firing pin or switching primers.

Ive read also the problem with Cheddite hulls Win 209s or other US brand primers fit loose in them . Seems the best solution is to just spend a little extra $ and go with a better hull/primer combo . Well I just looked Cheddite hulls appear to no longer be cheaper than the Federals so there doesnt seem to be a reason anymore to use those unless its as a last resort .

[William Davis]

Never pierced a primer with Winchester 209s.

I cock my Hammer guns with the Breech open & before Loading. Seems to require less effort. Don’t load & close the gun until ready to low mount & get into shooting position. That’s not the best solution for hunting though.

William

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by William Davis

Never pierced a primer with Winchester 209s.

I cock my Hammer guns with the Breech open & before Loading. Seems to require less effort. Don’t load & close the gun until ready to low mount & get into shooting position. That’s not the best solution for hunting though.

William

I think they will be easier to cock with hunting gloves on, something for the knurl part of the hammer to grip to .

[Bruce Hering]

Originally Posted by William Davis

Never pierced a primer with Winchester 209s.

I cock my Hammer guns with the Breech open & before Loading. Seems to require less effort. Don’t load & close the gun until ready to low mount & get into shooting position. That’s not the best solution for hunting though.

William

Seems I remember my Dad (back in the 50's) carrying his hammer gun cocked and open with shells in place. He would not shoot (go to the point with gun closed) unless the dog pointed and held the bird.

I have done this when I hunted alone with a hammer gun and it worked fine for me. No one else to worry about.....

[ArtS]

Originally Posted by William Davis

Never pierced a primer with Winchester 209s.

I cock my Hammer guns with the Breech open & before Loading. Seems to require less effort. Don’t load & close the gun until ready to low mount & get into shooting position. That’s not the best solution for hunting though.

William

Actually, when I hunt I generally carry all doubles open until I shoot. (Works ideally with a non-auto safety). Always seemed to me to be the safest system that could exist.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by William Davis

Never pierced a primer with Winchester 209s.

I cock my Hammer guns with the Breech open & before Loading. Seems to require less effort. Don’t load & close the gun until ready to low mount & get into shooting position. That’s not the best solution for hunting though.

William

I’ve pierced WIN , REM , Federal and Chedditte primers with several hammer guns 10-12-16 . But I’ve never knock on wood pierced one with a hammerless gun SO FAR

[6pt-Sika]

I’m debating taking a 16 hammer on an upcoming quail deal . I’ll carry the gun cracked open unloaded with the hammers down . When dogs are on point I’ll load close and just before they flush I’ll pull the hammers back . I’m no advocate of walking around with the gun cracked open and the hammers back then closing on loaded chambers with the hammers back .

[ArtS]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

I’m debating taking a 16 hammer on an upcoming quail deal . I’ll carry the gun cracked open unloaded with the hammers down . When dogs are on point I’ll load close and just before they flush I’ll pull the hammers back . I’m no advocate of walking around with the gun cracked open and the hammers back then closing on loaded chambers with the hammers back .

Just for clarity, I have never hunted anything but doves with a hammer gun, and there is no walking as a rule. What I described is typical upland hunting with lhammerless guns. I got into this practice with my kids. I always felt safer in a group if only the people over the dog have a gun ready to fire.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer

Just for clarity, I have never hunted anything but doves with a hammer gun, and there is no walking as a rule. What I described is typical upland hunting with lhammerless guns. I got into this practice with my kids. I always felt safer in a group if only the people over the dog have a gun ready to fire.

Wasn’t knocking your practices . Several other people have said the correct way is to pull the hammers back while the guns cracked open load close etc . I’ve watched many folks shoot sporting that way , I’m just more comfortable not pulling the hammers back until after the guns closed . I’ve had hammer guns double on me before so I guess I’m just squeamish about the left hammer falling when I close the gun . If the guns closed , I pull the hammers back point it and fire and if both barrels go off it’s what I consider a better situation . And to be honest one is never gonna be 100% ceratain they know when the gun will finally be worn enough to accidentally drop . My Grade 0 16 hammer dropped on me twice at a practice round at one of my semi local clubs , 16 isn’t anything terrible recoil wise when it happens but it sure messes up the mental aspect .