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Old 01-28-2021, 03:27 PM   #1
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I remember years ago, it was fashionable to label predators as vicious killers that should be destroyed whenever possible. I have in front of me an Outdoor Life article from May 1938. One of the articles is called “Villain’s of the Wood and Field”. “If the coyote and skunk are skilled at annoying outdoorsmen, they are positive geniuses at defeating his efforts to wipe them out.” Also in that magazine is an advertisement for Winchester small bore rifles for killing “pests”. The advertisement features a picture of an owl.

I guess, to this day, vestiges of that sentiment still linger. Much of my hunting is on a large estate that has large populations of predator’s. I plant acres of sorghum every year to provide food and cover for the pheasants, but we still lose quite a few. By far the most effective predators on the property are hawks. It is very common to find dead pheasants with their breast eaten and the rest of the bird remaining. They don’t need to work to get every bite when there is plentiful food.

The foxes and coyotes generally take the whole bird. Predation by these animals is not a factor on the property. New York, as some other states, have hunting seasons on these animals to protect them. I guess these states don’t see these predations as “killing machines”

Hawks and owls are protected, as they should be. I don’t begrudge the hawks on the property their pheasant kills. Unlike myself, they are eating to survive.
As someone who has bow hunted deer for a very long time... I will say this about coyotes.... They are so thick where I hunt, that if you do not recover your deer within an hour or so... More than likely they will be on it, before you can get to it. I am very careful about what shots I take, and luckily for me, in the last 10 years I have yet to have a deer go more than 50 yds, and all have died within minutes of being arrowed. I did have to let a buck go over night several years ago, and by the time I recovered it at first light next morning, there wasn't much left of it other than the head..... The can wipe out a deer fairly quick.

I shoot every coyote I see while deer hunting. I know I don't even begin to put a dent in their numbers. Also, large coyote populations can be very hard on fawns in the spring. As for pheasants, even with a large population of coyotes, I would think they have very limited success on killing many of those, or any other game bird for that matter. Hawks are much better at that, and they are protected.
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Fishers specialize in eating porkys. Of course they also eat other stuff.
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Yep, my favorite coyote. Nice going Gary.
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So, did you skin it out and stretch it?
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Fishers specialize in eating porkys. Of course they also eat other stuff.
And red squirrels. They are in the weasel family so they don't stay in a small area they have big travel Range
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Thats a beautiful coyote. I've killed some in Sasketechawan. We have a number of them on the property I hunt in Pawling, NY. We see them fairly often and hear them howling and nipping many nights.

But, I decided not to shoot them. I have a caller but I've never used it. They look too much like a dog to me. I just can't pull the trigger on one anymore. Sure they do take fawns in the spring on the property, but I have never seen evidence of them killing a full grown deer in my area.

I guess its pointless sentimentality on my part, but I don't think I'll ever kill one on the property.
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They sure do make good targets. :-)

I normally kill a few each year deer hunting, this year I have not seen one, but hear them almost everynight I am at my place.

Congrats!
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I hunted them the first three years that Mosquito Creek Sportsman Association held their coyote hunt. Don't know if they still have it. Moved from PA nine years ago. The club I hunted with in the Quehanna Wild Area killed four the first year they had a camp of their own which was way back in 1990.
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that's a big ote for sure...charlie
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A couple that got to close while I was perched in a tree. They run out of steam pretty quick after attack from an air missile.
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