6-Frame Trivia

[Jeff K.]

I believe they are all two piece.
My 6 frame 10 has the extra screw.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kuss

I believe they are all two piece.

Ah I believe you are correct , some guns the line is visible and on others its more blended in I think . On this PH 8 its easy to see but on my NH you just about need a magnifying glass .

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kuss

I believe they are all two piece.
My 6 frame 10 has the extra screw.

Any pictures of your 6 frame 10 ga ? So far I think ive counted 4 or 5 of them here .

[B. Dudley]

You guys ready for the answer... ?




The Screw in question under the top lever of 6 frame guns is to hold in an extension piece for the top lever linkage to fit into. The smaller frame sizes has a cut in the frame for this purpose. But, on the 6 frame guns, it is too large to use the normal top lever parts. So, instead of making all new top lever parts for just the 6 frame, they made up the extension block for the normal parts to fit into. So that way they could utilize the normal size linkage parts in the big frame.

Here is a photo of a 6 frame on top and a 2 frame on bottom. You can see the extension block attached to the bottom of the tang on the top frame.

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[B. Dudley]

I happened to have all of these photos in my archives from a 6 frame 8g. that I restored a number of years ago. I thought I shared them at that time, but maybe not. Here they are...


Some Parker internal parts have variances in them based on frame size.

But the 6 frame guns have a many number of unique parts in them due to their massive size.

Here are a number of them for you to compare and learn from.


6 frame top lever on top and 2 frame on bottom.

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See here the marking on the bottom of a 6 frame top lever. (Model No. 6 Hammerless. And the year 1899 (the gun it came from was made in '99).

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A 6 frame cocking slide (on right) next to a 2 frame slide.

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A 6 frame safety jacket assembly (on right) next to a standard assembly (they are all the same size on all other frame sizes).

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A 6 frame trip (on right) next to the normal Trip assembly.

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The 6 frame cocking crank (on right) next to the standard crank.

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The 6 frame trigger plate (on right) next to a 2 frame plate.

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A 6 frame sear (on right) next to the standard sear. Note how far the leg bends in, due tot he width of the frame and having to bring it in to the normal
position.

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Finally the 6 frame on top with a 2 frame on bottom.

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The gun that these parts came from. An 8g. PH with 40" barrels.

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[Dean Romig]

Brian, I remember the discussion with pictures of the cocking crank and the floor plate and maybe one or two other things that are considerably bigger on the 6 frame, but I don't remember any discussion on the purpose of that extra screw in the top tang..





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[Dean Romig]

Yup, exactly those kinds of conditions.




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[B. Dudley]

The funny thing about the 6 frame guns is that everything is texas sized except for the trigger guard. They look tiny on the guns.

[Rick Roemer]

With all those differences and obvious unique parts, were 6 frame guns more expensive? One would think so.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Rick Roemer

With all those differences and obvious unique parts, where 6 frame guns more expensive? One would think so.

I seen a Parker catalog from 1912 IIRC that lists the DH grade 8 gauge as $35 more than the 10,12, etc which according to a inflation calculator would be around $912 difference today . However ive heard 1 day of good waterfowling could make as much as 10 days wage as your average worker so the price difference may have been negligible to a professional waterfowler ? Theres probably alot of caveats to that however and alot of variables I would think .

Though if you were waterfowling for a living and you just needed a big gun for the job a grade 1 or 0 would have been cheaper .