Dry-fire Trojan

[Tom Wooden]

Please go to the Research Tab, the information related to the hang tags are in that section. I have also copied it below:

Parker Original Work Order Tags - A number of original Parker Bros. work order tags were found in the old Parker Bros. office building in Meriden CT by a PGCA committee. The Original Parker Bros.'s work order tags will be made available by contacting:

PGCA Research Committee

P. O. Box 126502

Harrisburg, PA 17112

PGCA members who are the actual owner of the gun to which the tag applies (if such tags exist) . A photo of the gun, making sure the serial number is visible, should accompany each request. These tags are available to PGCA members ONLY and the cost for each tag is as follows:

Trojan to GH grade - $100.00

DH to BH grade - $200.00

AH and above - $300.00

"Click here" to view a complete list of available Parker Bros. Work Order Tags.

[John Bastiani]

Originally Posted by Tom Wooden

Please go to the Research Tab, the information related to the hang tags are in that section. I have also copied it below:

Parker Original Work Order Tags - A number of original Parker Bros. work order tags were found in the old Parker Bros. office building in Meriden CT by a PGCA committee. The Original Parker Bros.'s work order tags will be made available by contacting:

PGCA Research Committee

P. O. Box 126502

Harrisburg, PA 17112

PGCA members who are the actual owner of the gun to which the tag applies (if such tags exist) . A photo of the gun, making sure the serial number is visible, should accompany each request. These tags are available to PGCA members ONLY and the cost for each tag is as follows:

Trojan to GH grade - $100.00

DH to BH grade - $200.00

AH and above - $300.00

"Click here" to view a complete list of available Parker Bros. Work Order Tags.

My guns serial number isn"t on the list but thanks anyway.

[Craig Budgeon]

I think Tony Galazan had blank hanging tags for sale and if I recall correctly they were originals. You may dry fire a hammerless Parker but since hammer guns have firing pins you may want to consider using snap caps.

[Mike Poindexter]

FWIW, I have always been told that guns with a coil mainspring, such as Parkers, do not have to worry about the springs taking a set like some leaf spring actions, i.e. British sidelocks and LC Smiths.

[Dean Romig]

In about 1960 or so when my friend and I discovered his late grandfather’s Trojan in his family’s cellar tucked in behind the chimney, and in its original canvas case the hang tags were still with it but were so oil soaked and dilapidated and completely illegible, we just rossed them in the trash.





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[Pa SxS]

The PGCA doesn't have Hang Tags, we have Work Order Tags. Totally different tags. Work order tags were made after the gun was finished production and were not shipped with the gun. They gave build specifications. Hang Tags were filled out separately and were attached to the gun when shipped

Edited

The more I think about the WOT's I think the tags were made at the office and the info from the Order Book was written on the WOT. The WOT was then taken to the factory and the gun built according to what the tag said. I doubt the Order books ever left the office building. They were constantly being used. Parts were picked, S/N established, then as each procedure was finished, entered into the stock book.

[John Bastiani]

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

The PGCA doesn't have Hang Tags, we have Work Order Tags. Totally different tags. Work order tags were made after the gun was finished production and were not shipped with the gun. They gave build specifications. Hang Tags were filled out separately and were attached to the gun when shipped

Edited

The more I think about the WOT's I think the tags were made at the office and the info from the Order Book was written on the WOT. The WOT was then taken to the factory and the gun built according to what the tag said. I doubt the Order books ever left the office building. They were constantly being used. Parts were picked, S/N established, then as each procedure was finished, entered into the stock book.

You would think that through the years that a few of the Parker "Direction for use hangtags" would come up for sale. After collecting Winchesters for over 40 years-I have found several original hangtags.

[John Bastiani]

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

The PGCA doesn't have Hang Tags, we have Work Order Tags. Totally different tags. Work order tags were made after the gun was finished production and were not shipped with the gun. They gave build specifications. Hang Tags were filled out separately and were attached to the gun when shipped

Edited

The more I think about the WOT's I think the tags were made at the office and the info from the Order Book was written on the WOT. The WOT was then taken to the factory and the gun built according to what the tag said. I doubt the Order books ever left the office building. They were constantly being used. Parts were picked, S/N established, then as each procedure was finished, entered into the stock book.

Sir: When I purchased my Parker I received 3 letters with the gun and two are typed giving the specifications of the gun from the PGCA(2001) and signed by Mr. Ronald Kirby. The third letter is handwritten and list every detail and specification about the gun. It has the letters RYNY in the bottom right hand corner. Is this letter taken from the original factory ledgers and called the stock book or the order book?

[Pa SxS]

John, I would have to have the S/N of your gun. I can tell you that we started archiving research letters in 2004 and when searching for your name found none. Ron Kirby did the first letters but didn't archive them. Mark Conrad took over from Ron and did them for about 8 years, then I took over the letters in 2012. Mark started archiving in about 2004. The Order Books ended December 1919 so if there is Order Book information in your letter, it would have had to been made prior to 1920.

Give me your S/N.
Chuck

[Pa SxS]

Dean, I was all excited to dig into your question but when I looked at the WOT's, except for the real early ones which are real small and extremely dirty, most of the WOT's are in the range of 220k to 235k range, well after the order books ended in 1919. I did match up a bunch of them with the stock books but the stock books don't really give special instructions that the order book entry would. What I did find most interesting is that many of the WOT's showed a recoil pad where the stock books would never mention the butt treatment so the assumption would be that the gun had the standard butt for the grade of the gun. There are a lot of guns out there that we assumed they were retrofitted with a recoil pad when that was not the case. The large WOT's (there were 3 different sizes) many times would have interesting things written on the back side of the card. I've seen leather recoil pads, straight ribs, rounded recoil pad for a woman, etc. Real interesting reading. I think I'll start another thread with some pictures when I get time in my busy schedule