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Unread 11-15-2019, 06:50 PM   #1
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I'll let you know if I book at T Rex hunt somewhere.....
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I was totally satisfied with the Savage ML-II and then it developed a blow by issue . Savage rebarreled it returned it and it shot great if loaded and shot right away . Sent it back again and they eventually sent me a brand new one . Never fired the new one kept it six months and sold it on GB for a tidy $500 profit . About eight months ago I got a Remington 700 Ultimate ML and like it just fine . Shot 42 grains of VV N-110 with a 250 saboted bullet in the Savage for 2150 FPS in the Remington I use 64.5 grains H4198 and a saboted 250 for 2150 FPS as well . Both were or are capable of 3 shot one hole groups at 100 yards .
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Check these out. Extremely powerful and unbelievably accurate. Smokeless powder, 45 cal., superbly made.
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Check these out. Extremely powerful and unbelievably accurate. Smokeless powder, 45 cal., superbly made.
I kinda like the one built on the Ruger #1 action , but I can’t say I care for the prices .
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That sounds pretty slow for the charge you are using and by the way your Remington is not designed for smokeless powder. I started with 60grs of IMR4198 and a 300gr Hornady FXT and was getting between 2450 and 2495 fps.
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That sounds pretty slow for the charge you are using and by the way your Remington is not designed for smokeless powder. I started with 60grs of IMR4198 and a 300gr Hornady FXT and was getting between 2450 and 2495 fps.
I know it’s not and that’s what the Chrony said as an average for three shots twelve feet from the muzzle . Perhaps the Vhrony was giving false readings I dunno . I also chronographed 225 and 200 grainers with the same powder charges and velocity lessened . Which I thought awful strange at the time .
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My favorite deer hunting is muzzle loader season here in Maine. Last part of the season when almost no one is in the woods and usually snow on the ground to track. I almost bought a smokeless muzzle loader as I would love to try one. This one is very cool! Could not justify it for here in Maine though as the chance for a shot at a range beyond my Encore is extremely slight. I use the Blackhorn 209 powder which cleans up just like smokeless. You can shoot many shots and never have to clean it till you put it away. Has a little better velocity that other powders but not to the smokeless level. Very accurate in my guns and 200 yard shots are quite doable. I would bet the average shots at deer here in Maine are well under 100 yards though. Might still have to get a smokeless one though just to play with....they intrigue me...
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I would bet the average shots at deer here in Maine are well under 100 yards though..
I keep a ledger/journal of my deer kills distance gun scope cartridge load time of day etc etc . Anyway I’m well over 300 and low and behold the average of all the deer I’ve plunked is about 42 yards . My pop used to tell me “you could kill just about every deer you’ve taken with a 30-30”
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This one will probably never see a hunt all thow I was surprised when I weight it this morning. It only weighs 11.4 lbs. It felt heaver than that.
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This one will probably never see a hunt all thow I was surprised when I weight it this morning. It only weighs 11.4 lbs. It felt heaver than that.
The Remington I use now is pretty heavy although not as much as yours . But certainly a good bit heavier then the Savage 10ML-II .
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