Dogs Head Butt Plate on Trojan

[B. Dudley]

YES.

See attached photo showing both the number 0 and number 1 sized plates. Meriden on top. Remington on bottom. The sizes are for different gauges.

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[edgarspencer]

That's neat Brian. Since the OP's Trojan was a 20, the butt must have been an 0 size, so have you ever seen a dead bird Remington plate in an 0 size, or can we assume it came from Galazan?

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

That's neat Brian. Since the OP's Trojan was a 20, the butt must have been an 0 size, so have you ever seen a dead bird Remington plate in an 0 size, or can we assume it came from Galazan?

The trojan used a completely different plate. The simple serrated style. They only offered 2 sizes of plates. The 12g and the 16/20g size. They were not numbered.

The number 1 size DHBP is a little larger than the 16/20g size trojan plate. Thus explaining why the border on the OP’s plate is almost gone.

[TroutSetter]

Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Michael Meeks

Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?

In some cases, where a heavier gun was needed, Yes.

And to clarify... in this thread, the buttplate numbers are the buttplate numbers, not the frame size. On many earlier 20g gun with 0 frame, the number 1 sized buttplate was used.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Michael Meeks

Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?

Not the Trojans... 12's were built on the 2-frame... 16's were built on the 1-frame... and 20's were built on the 0-frame.





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[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Not the Trojans... 12's were built on the 2-frame... 16's were built on the 1-frame... and 20's were built on the 0-frame.





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There was some 1 frame 12g. Trojans built on special order. With Twist barrels too. But these an oddity.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

There was some 1 frame 12g. Trojans built on special order. With Twist barrels too. But these an oddity.

Right - That's the order that was shipped to the Fae East I believe.





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[TroutSetter]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Right - That's the order that was shipped to the Fae East I believe.

OK, now I'm lost. Dean, what's the backstory?

[TroutSetter]

Thank you, Brian! I was mistakenly assuming frame size correlated with butt plate size.