Best 20 G hull

[Craig Larter]

I have used both STS and Gun Clubs in 20ga 3/4oz Clay Buster wad with chedditte primers. I much prefer the gun club to STS, I get much better crimps. The STS hulls are thicker at the mouth which causes a slight mushroom at the mouth making it necessary to push the shell into the chamber of my Fox, I don't have this issue with the Gun Clubs with the same MEC 9000 press. Also make sure your resizing to suit your chamber---Foxes are normally tight.

[William Davis]

Running them in a Ponsness Warren 375 sizes the whole case. Shell drops in the chamber fine. The Trojan with light use gets the occasional hard to close. Well worn Trojan never happened . Took me a while to figure it out. Even stripped the gun and polished the cocking slide thinking it was a gun issue . it was hard to open too.

Finally painted dozen loaded shells heads with layout die. Scrapes on the hard to opens were on the primers . Friend of mine has same interment issue with Remington Gun Clubs in a Beretta 687.

If I pay attention to pushing the press operating handle real hard no high primers. But something was hanging up when seating for sure.

William

[Pa SxS]

Craig, the last station on your 9000 should taper the mouth of the shell. Do you use it?

[Craig Larter]

Yes I do Chuck. But before I get a good taper it crushes the sts hull. No issue with the gun clubs with exactly the same press settings. I was so frustrated with the sts hulls I called mec technical support. They offered no suggestions. Maybe the design of the 3/4oz wad???

[Gary Laudermilch]

Craig, years ago I loaded a ton of Gun Clubs and then they began to vary in overall length which caused erratic crimps so I switched to STSs. When first loading the STS I encountered the problem you describe. The solution was to adjust the press. I increased the crimp starter a wee bit, adjusted the crimp die to put less pressure on the outside but a bit more on the center punch, and slightly increased the finishing die. Problem solved and I have shot these shells in 7 different 20's with no discernable difference in any of them.

As an aside, last year I loaded some new gun clubs with 3/4 oz loads so I could easily tell them apart from 7/8 oz loads. The plastic on the newer gun clubs was so stiff that the press handle pressure was so excessive I gave up after a few hundred rounds. Then I tried the Field/Clay hulls and found them to be nearly identical to the STS in crimp quality, longevity, and interior volume. I've loaded quite a few 3/4 oz loads with the CB1075-20 wad and they work beautifully. No press adjustments required.

[C.O.B.]

I'm no fan of the STS 28ga hull. The end frosts after firing and case life is crap. For me the old AA hull is superior and fortunately I have lots of them. Using the correct new HS wad helps in that hull and IMHO it 's a better hull than the STS.

[Craig Larter]

Gary thanks so much for the tip I will give it a try.Craig Larter

[Paul Harm]

Many guys may not have a tapered reamer. Just select a drill bit that goes in the primer hole, around 15/64, and you can cut the plastic out. I did it about 10 years ago on 28ga and it worked great. I've never had the problem with 20 or 12ga Remingtons.

[William Davis]

Just finished 50 it’s quick work with a reamer. I used a pin gage to check & make sure I did not over open. Load them tomorrow & test them in my Trojan

Will see

William

[David Lien]

Have any of you 20 Ga. Reloader's tried the Remington Hull with the yellow Plastic base wad?? I did load up some of these hulls couple of weeks ago and they did what I wanted done. ((Field Loads)) I found that the Federal wad is larger in diameter than some of the other wads, and worked well. The loads shot very well, clean burning and good velocity. I most likely load at higher pressures than some of you, but the hulls held up good. No Primer issues, Crimps were 6 point, and I loaded them four or five times working up a load. I think I may like these hulls. Just a thought David