Question about recoil

[Bill Anderson]

The smartest thing you can do is buy a Caldwell lead sled for the bench. When I got started into the 3 1/2" 12 gauge turkey load craze, patterning even a few shells was just plain torture. After I bought the "lead sled' shooting all day with any gauge or caliber is no problem. I added 100 lb to the sled, a chunk of steel from a junk yard, and smile now every time I pull the trigger. The lead sled is also ideal to hold and adjust any rifle, even my 22s and air rifle when sighting in a scope that I just mounted. I got over the 3 1/2" 12 gauge and only shoot SxSs now, but the lead sled is here to stay. But, be ready though, as all your friends and family will want to borrow it. You'll thank me after you buy one!

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...well+lead+sled

Bill

[Big D]

Gun weight is important to the felt recoil. Given identical loads and stock dimensions, the heavier gun feel better. The total recoil is equal in both guns, but the heavier gun will feel more like a push than a stab

[Southpaw]

I agree. I have a pair of dehaan sxs's that when I think I will be busting brush they are my go to guns. One is a 20 gauge the other a 28 gauge. The 20 gauge feels like just about every 20 gauge I have ever shot. That 28 gauge is much lighter but the recoil is much sharper. 20 gauge feels like a push 28 feels like a quick jab, put less power behind it.

As if 28 gauge shells are not expensive enough, would love to see a 28 gauge load with tungsten in some 10 or 12 size shot. That could be the ultimate small bore game getter gun, especially in that left barrel.

[Bill Murphy]

#10 and #12 will not penetrate a flannel shirt at 25 yards. It is not for the humane dispatch of any game bird.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

#10 and #12 will not penetrate a flannel shirt at 25 yards. It is not for the humane dispatch of any game bird.

I am with you when it comes traditional thinking when it comes to lead shot, but I am learning. It is hard to wrap your mind around it. I was skeptical like you with classic thinking about lead shot at that size, would be the same as shooting coarse table salt. I am talking about a theoretical tungsten load in that size and not lead though, and not even certain they make tungsten that small, yet.

They are now using number #9 shot in tungsten to kill turkeys at 50+ yards and since tungsten has a density of 18 compared to leads 12, that is a 50% increase in mass. The ballistics performance of this stuff is just phenomenal at what it can achieve with such small pellets. It is definitely a shift in thinking.

Just guessing but would think pellet count in 28 gauge with #10 shot would be about the same as 12 gauge using 7.5 shot in a 2 3/4 shell.

[Bill Anderson]

Originally Posted by Todd Poer

I am with you when it comes traditional thinking when it comes to lead shot, but I am learning. It is hard to wrap your mind around it. I was skeptical like you with classic thinking about lead shot at that size, would be the same as shooting coarse table salt. I am talking about a theoretical tungsten load in that size and not lead though, and not even certain they make tungsten that small, yet.

They are now using number #9 shot in tungsten to kill turkeys at 50+ yards and since tungsten has a density of 18 compared to leads 12, that is a 50% increase in mass. The ballistics performance of this stuff is just phenomenal at what it can achieve with such small pellets. It is definitely a shift in thinking.

Just guessing but would think pellet count in 28 gauge with #10 shot would be about the same as 12 gauge using 7.5 shot in a 2 3/4 shell.

Here is some of the latest info on the new Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS (tungsten super shot)
... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ccWMOFEicQ

Bil

[bob weeman]

I built a standing bench rest years ago and used it quite heavily because it made a big difference back when I shot rifles up to 458. I had a 20 inch barreled Remington 700 C. A very light gun for the caliber. I also loaded up many reduced loads which is what I would mostly use if I were to play with the 375. Fun playing with the big boomers!

[Kevin McCormack]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

#10 and #12 will not penetrate a flannel shirt at 25 yards. It is not for the humane dispatch of any game bird.

I don't know about that - I've killed an awful lot of Sora rail with #10s in my 28 gauges. Tell ya what - bring an old flannel shirt to Poolesville tomorrow and we'll see - I'll provide the vintage ammo.

[Elk Hunter]

I hunted elk with a 375 H&H for a number of years and have shot it quite a bit from the bench and can say that how you place yourself behind the rifle makes a difference. When shooting from a bench you need to be sitting straight up behind the rifle, not hunched over it. By sitting straight up you're body is better able to give with the recoil and it is not so punishing. Better yet the British have used standing benches to test large bore doubles for years.

I'm planning to build a standing rest that is a small bench that clamps to the vertical roof supports at our local range, that way I can have good support and still be able to shoot more rounds accurately when testing loads for my big bore rifles.

[Big D]

I had a chance to get a 4 hour tour at the H&H factory. The man who is their rifle regulator was not a work that dy. He was having major dental work done. I suspect it was from too much exposure to .500 Nitro Express