3 inch chambered 12 gauge

[Bill Murphy]

"For which they were chambered" means 2 5/8" chambers for 2 3/4" shells or 2 7/8" chambers for 3" shells. The statement you refer to is not meant to be a warning because Remington literature clarifies the length of chambers to be shorter than the shell by 1/8".

[charlie cleveland]

bill i do need to get a letter on the 3 frame would tickle me good if it had 3 inch chambers.charlie

[charlie cleveland]

i just measured the chambers of the ph 3 frame 42 ga they are 2 7/8 inch...i shot it with a no 6 and no 5 shot in 3 inch at a coke can at 50 steps no 6 put 5 shot in can and no 5 put 6 shot in the can it will not make a good turkey gun but will be fine on the wood ducks next fall...charlie

[Mark Conrad]

The early guns with 2 7/8 inch chambers were not intended for the latter 3 inch magnum shells. Remington offered a 12 gauge designed for the true 12 ga. Mag. shell. I have seen 4 -6 of these guns over the years with one being a CHE that I almost bought. I had a late AHE and a late VHE that were both fitted with a second set of 3 inch barrels. The 3 inch barrels made in the Remington era were very heavy and there was no swamp in the barrels in front of the chambers. They were also marked on the lug "For 3" shells". These Remington 12 ga. 3 inch guns are rare, probably less than 15 made.

[charlie cleveland]

my barrels weigh 5 lb 10 ounces on a three frame with twist steel barrel i know they say not to shoot heavy loads like 3 inch in these type of barrels...but i have been shooting heavy loads in several guns for 50 years or better with no problems...i wish i could find one of those remington 3 inch guns...i shoot a lc smith long range gun with 3 inch chambers a lot..i have looed at the 3 inch chambers and compare them to my 2 3/4 inch guns and can see no differance in the barrels or frames except one is marked 3 inch...i wonder if this is what parker and remingto done to there gun just lentghened the chambers 1 /4 of a inch..charlie

[Bill Murphy]

We need to examine one of those Remington guns that Mark describes. They are 1 1/2 frame, so the barrel weight marking would tell the tale. I looked at one 3" VHE before Mark bought it and I didn't think it was that heavy. Mark, do you still have a set of those barrels so you can share the weight marking with us?

[Mark Conrad]

I sold both the AHE and the VHE. THE VHE barrels were very heavy and I didn't like the balance of the gun. I shot a few ducks with it using heavy loads and it did fine. It was actually a skeet gun that had the 3 inch barrels fitted latter and were numbered 2 on the barrel lug. Bill, you know where it bought it. I do not remember the barrel weight but the gun was a little over 8 pounds. Anyway, they are rare.

[Researcher]

The one I handled was the CHE at Randy Shuman's, probably 35 years ago now.

[Bill Murphy]

Mark, you described the bad balance on the VHE. I would own that gun now if it felt good in the hands, but it did not.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

The Remington 3 inch guns would be the only ones I would trust.i have seen this gun and so has Dean. Straight grip VHE with original SSBP. Fantastic wood like an Ilion Parker.

1-1/2 frame
30 inch barrels
4 pound unstruck