first ejectors

[Brush Buster]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

I own Parker no. 79355 that went back in 1913 to have ejectors retrofitted. It cost $25 to have it done.

[Chris T.]

Jim's forend

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

This reminds me of my non-Parker ejectors.

[Researcher]

Pictures Dr. Gaddy sent me of Moran & Wolfersperger ejectors --





A Nov. 17, 1906, ad for M & W Ejectors --



by then being fitted by Gus Habich and Moran & Wolfersperger had parted ways and as can be seen in the other ad Mathew E. Moran was now working with F.B. Stannard.

[Bill Murphy]

OK, about those "first" ejector guns. I owned #114,370, a CHE that, according to the SB, is the thirteenth ejector gun in that serial number range including the two lower numbered guns to be mentioned. #109,826 and #108,043 are also in the same October 1902 era, but out of sequence of the first in sequence serial numbers which begin at #114,201 according to my order book research as well as the Serialization Book entries. Those two lower number guns were probably older guns that happened to be available for experimentation. There could be the odd ejector gun in order books previous to the ones I examined, but that is unlikely since the stock books for the period are available and are posted in the SB. For all practical purposes, #114,201 is the earliest production ejector gun. #108,041 and #109,827 are listed as ejector guns in the SB. It is odd that these two numbers are so close to the early ejector guns I mentioned earlier, so I suspect a posting error in the Serialization Book.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Chris Travinski

Jim's forend

There is nothing in that picture that represents Parker Bros. ejectors.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

#109,826 and #108,043 are also in the same October 1902 era, but out of sequence of the first in sequence serial numbers which begin at #114,201 according to my order book research as well as the Serialization Book entries. Those two lower number guns were probably older guns that happened to be available for experimentation. There could be the odd ejector gun in order books previous to the ones I examined, but that is unlikely since the stock books for the period are available and are posted in the SB.

Interesting.... "My order book research" and "previous to the ones I examined" indicates you have examined several order book and possibly stock books too. Did one of our Research Chairmen allow you to examine those books?..... or was that from the time Remington Arms Co. granted permission to the PGCA to copy the books and you were part of that team? You've got a great memory for detail Bill... a phenomenal memory.

[Bill Murphy]

Thanks for the "memory" compliment, but my early ejector research is all written down. I can quote it if I can find it. We were at Ilion for about five or six days for the PGCA Research Team and I sometimes would not go to lunch. I used the occasional lunch hour to pore over the books on days when they didn't lock us out of the Archives. During working hours, our noses were continually at the grindstone. Ask Allan about that. Another source of research material is my collection of "second copies" of pages I found interesting, like celebrity guns, the Show Gun lists, A-1 Specials, the Czar's gun, and any copies that were ruined and ended up in the trash. I think Jim Hall also raided the trash cans. Remember, there was no The Parker Story or Serialization Book and we were seeing these guns for the first time. I have only asked for special help from Research Chairmen when they expressed special interest in some special gun I was requesting a letter on, like the Gold Hearts Gun. Mark and I corresponed back and forth for days before we got that letter completed. For most of us, it was the highlight of our gun collecting careers.

[C.O.B.]

I have serial number 70253 a 16ga 0 frame with ejectors. It's probably a retrofit as the gun is Damascus. I brought this to the Southern several years ago and Austin, Mark Conrad and several others looked it over and concluded all work was indeed Parker. It now not only has ejectors but a straight grip, SST,BTF with the correct lug and recoil rod and just for grins a SSB.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Rich -that is a very sweet combination. Is that a gun you have posted on the forum already?