EH weight difference .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I have two 32" #3 frames that weigh 10 pounds. I have one that weights 9 pounds, 8 ounces. I have a 27" #2 frame ten that weighs about 7 1/4 pounds. All #4 frame hammer guns that I have weighed are just at or under 11 pounds to take advantage of the maximum allowed weight of pigeon guns in the mid 1880s.

So the only hammerless 10 gauge frames were #2 , #3 and #6 with the exception of the one gun built on a #1 frame correct .

Also there was no such thing as a hammerless #4 or #5 frame ?

Sorry I see you pretty well answered all this in a post above !

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Yup - there are exceptions to every rule. We find a lot of exceptions with Parker shotguns.

Actually I think the Parker company is no different then say Marlin or Winchester in the same time period !

William Brophy's book on Marlin has many many many contradictions etc after one has collected/accumulated Marlin guns . My friends that get hung up on Wrenchesters say the same thing with some of the printed matter on there choosen brand .

[Snap Cap]

Greg and Brian, I did not see any ejector equipped grade 1 or 2 10 ga. guns listed in the serialization book between serial #108000 and 140000. There were 10ga. ejector equipped guns listed in Grade 3 and above in this same group. Of course there are many SNs missing from this book and what information is available in the order books may be another matter. HTH.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Fred Verry

Greg and Brian, I did not see any ejector equipped grade 1 or 2 10 ga. guns listed in the serialization book between serial #108000 and 140000. There were 10ga. ejector equipped guns listed in Grade 3 and above in this same group. Of course there are many SNs missing from this book and what information is available in the order books may be another matter. HTH.

Does anyone have or has anyone seen a Grade 1 or Grade 2 composite barrel hammerless 10 ga with factory ejectors? I went through the same exercise as Fred last year (it was a long cold winter then too) and I never came across any in the Serialization book.

[charlie cleveland]

except maybe for the 2 frame you ain t gona see much differant in the weight of these guns..i m going by the 10 ga that i ve seen this in..i have a 32 frame 10ga it weighs 11 1/2 lbs the rest of my 3 frames weigh in at 9 1/4 to 9 1/2...the 4 frame guns in 10 ga will be close to 9 1/2 and 10 lbs...the 5 frames areclose to this also...there are exceptions...noy in 6 frame guns about 11 to 11 1/2 some heavier..then the 7 frame usally the 8 ga from 11 1/2 to 15 lb s...this is based on my oberservations thru the years...charlie

[Bill Murphy]

EH and NH tens were not made in #4 and #5 frames. The 4, 5, and 7 were hammer gun frames unless there is some rare exception out there. EH and NH tens were made in #2, #3, and #6 frames.

[Carvel]

I have a grade 3 4 frame 10 ga with 32 in barrels. Not sure of the weight but will weigh it today and post. Carvel

[Bill Murphy]

Carvel, I assume that is a hammer gun? We would like to hear more about it. #4 frame tens are often built for competitive shooters. Who was the person who ordered yours?

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Carvel Whaley

I have a grade 3 4 frame 10 ga with 32 in barrels. Not sure of the weight but will weigh it today and post. Carvel

You need to bring that bad boy up my way this spring and maybe Patton and Doc Lehue can join us at the Flying Rabbit in Mt Crawford .

[Carvel]

Bill, it is a hammer gun, ser. no. 38523, it weighs 10 lbs. 14 ozs. I do not have a letter on it and do not know who ordered it. Carvel