The Short Ten - How many shooting one?

[Grantham Forester]

I noticed two of your three Ithacas have recoil pads, one does not. Does a good quality pad as shown on your Ithaca guns really help with recoil, less with the 2.88" 10 shell than with the 3.50" shell I should guess. I am thinking about getting a ten, but would want it compatible with steel shot for Geese, as well as coppered loads for Turkey.

And my compliments on both your photography skills and your wife's touch of color- I see many guns listed for sale on GI website with a dark and gloomy background, the color ensemble you used actually enhances the nice grain of the gunstocks, and the metal finish as well.

I see the engraved star pattern, these are the later New Ithaca Double guns, and not the earlier Flews Ithacas, correct??

[Cold Spring]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll tell my wife that the pic backdrop went over well. I've never fired the Super 10 that has the HRBP, so I can't comment about the difference in perceived recoil versus a kick pad.

The Super 10's are NID (New Ithaca Double) guns - not the earlier Flues model. And not to be confused with the later heavier Ithaca Magnum guns made for 3-1/2" shells. The Ithaca NID is an excellent design, similar to A H Foxes with a rotary bolt engaging a slot in the top rib extension.

Personally I'd rather hunt with a vintage 10 gauge like the Ithaca, than with a modern 10 gauge SxS that's compatible with steel shot. I'll use bismuth, Nice or similar non-tox for waterfowl, and regular lead shot for turkeys and predators.

A couple of final pics: This one shows the Super-X type shells these Super 10's were adapted to.



Next one shows an excerpt from Askin's excellent 1929 book, Modern Shotguns and Loads, commenting on his test Super 10 after doing extensive velocity and pattern testing ..... "nearest I ever came to an 80 yard gun".

[Will Gurton]

Still in the process of acquiring the proper loading equipment, but by all means intend to be among the counted.

1906 Remington 1894 CEO.

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[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Will Gurton

Still in the process of acquiring the proper loading equipment, but by all means intend to be among the counted.

1906 Remington 1894 CEO.

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Will

If/when you acquire that C grade Remmy 1894 (A C grade 10 would be about as common as hen's teeth) I would like to see more pictures here. Graded Remingtons had some beautiful engraving. Good luck.

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Grantham,

EH Parkers were Grade 2 made in 10 gauge. Later Parker also made 10 gauge Grade 2's as GH guns. I own several EH guns and two or three GH 10 gauges.

Mark

[Mills]

I am a recent convert.

[Paul Harm]

Will, I have a BE, CE, and FE grade Remingtons. The CE has Etoile pattern damascus. If ever you need parts call Garland Jackson at 330-669-2138 [ he's in Sterling, Oh ] or Brad Bachelder at 616-459-3636, a master gunmaker in grand Rapids, Mi. Garland makes the most beautiful top lever springs for about $28 delivered . Brad is completely restoreing a 1873 Remington hammer lifter for me right now. He's also done damascus barrels, relayed ribs, and case coloring for me. The 73 needed a new stock and he knows a fellow with a bunch of original Remington stocks - I couldn't believe it. Those Remingtons were proofed for any shell [ for that time period ], so any kind of mild load will work just fine. For my Parker 10's I use 18grs of 700X, a SP-10 wad with 16ga filler cards and 1 or 1 1/8oz of shot. This is in a Remington hull cut to 2 5/8. Good luck.

[J.B. Books]

58 of us here shooting a Short Ten (hard to keep the count accurate in the 2nd most replied to thread on the board).

[PML]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

58 of us here shooting a Short Ten (hard to keep the count accurate in the 2nd most replied to thread on the board).

Pete,
Don't count me again as I already responded. I did however jump ship from hammerless to hammer 10's. I found this old 2 frame E grade 10 with
32" barrels and had to have it.

Pat

[Mills]

Nothing like seeing a sporting clay explode like a firecracker when I hit it with my EH 10.