The Future of Screw in Chokes

[C.O.B.]

Use spreaders. IF your going to open the choke I'd do it as a fixed choke not a screw in type.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Use spreaders. IF your going to open the choke I'd do it as a fixed choke not a screw in type.

Why?

I don't even know if I can get spreaders for a 16.

[10ga Hammer]

Some 16ga spreader options.

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Spr.../products/661/


http://www.polywad.com/spredr-inserts.html

[C.O.B.]

Spreaders in a 16 are not hard to come by. RST makes very good ones. I wouldn't do screw in chokes because IMHO you have an older gun with this peconcieved modern contraption threaded into the barrel. I just really don't like them and have opened the chokes on a couple of Parkers but did it by going from full to Mod by reaming out the choke. I have never changed a choke tube even when I had guns with this option. I passed on a nice Purdy 16 once because someone put Briley thin wall chokes in it!

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Spreaders in a 16 are not hard to come by. RST makes very good ones. I wouldn't do screw in chokes because IMHO you have an older gun with this peconcieved modern contraption threaded into the barrel. I just really don't like them and have opened the chokes on a couple of Parkers but did it by going from full to Mod by reaming out the choke. I have never changed a choke tube even when I had guns with this option. I passed on a nice Purdy 16 once because someone put Briley thin wall chokes in it!

You have, of course, give voice to my delima. Except for some slight rust feathering on some of the receiver the gun is new. While it looks like it came out of the factory last week (except for the slight rust spots) it is 81 years old!

Bore was dirty, I scrubbed it out last night and she came up absolutely new. No wear on the lower tang. So the gun was in a closet somewhere where it survived for a generation or two.

Last night I had made my decision to have it threaded, and now I've changed it again. I'll get the spreaders and see how she shoots at skeet. I can drop a spreader into the chamber and slide a normal shell up the magazine and have a non-selecting double barrel, right?

These old Model 11's are almost considered as junk in the collector world. I think they are much better shotguns than that. They work like a Browning, but heft a little differently and are a slightly different shape.

Also the bead is mounted on a little pedistal to compensate for the thickness of the receiver. If held so the pedistal can be seen the gun will shoot a little high so you can get some float at the trap range, which I like and it compensates for the lower comb. I think - I have yet to shoot the gun. I got it just a few days ago.

[Steve Kleist]

Originally Posted by Steve McCarty

You have, of course, give voice to my delima. Except for some slight rust feathering on some of the receiver the gun is new. While it looks like it came out of the factory last week (except for the slight rust spots) it is 81 years old!

Bore was dirty, I scrubbed it out last night and she came up absolutely new. No wear on the lower tang. So the gun was in a closet somewhere where it survived for a generation or two.

Last night I had made my decision to have it threaded, and now I've changed it again. I'll get the spreaders and see how she shoots at skeet. I can drop a spreader into the chamber and slide a normal shell up the magazine and have a non-selecting double barrel, right?

These old Model 11's are almost considered as junk in the collector world. I think they are much better shotguns than that. They work like a Browning, but heft a little differently and are a slightly different shape.

Also the bead is mounted on a little pedistal to compensate for the thickness of the receiver. If held so the pedistal can be seen the gun will shoot a little high so you can get some float at the trap range, which I like and it compensates for the lower comb. I think - I have yet to shoot the gun. I got it just a few days ago.

Rich has a good idea with the spreaders.....at least give it a try. You have nothing to lose. I had a choke opened on a shotgun once and it still paterned too tight for my liking. Spreaders solved the problem. If you are not happy, you can always go with screw ins or have it opened.
Besides, it is the journey, not necessarily the destination, that is the most fun. A reloading friend or a good reloading supply store can be most helpful for spreader information.
Best Fishes,
Steve Kleist Ely, MN

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Steve Kleist

Rich has a good idea with the spreaders.....at least give it a try. You have nothing to lose. I had a choke opened on a shotgun once and it still paterned too tight for my liking. Spreaders solved the problem. If you are not happy, you can always go with screw ins or have it opened.
Besides, it is the journey, not necessarily the destination, that is the most fun. A reloading friend or a good reloading supply store can be most helpful for spreader information.
Best Fishes,
Steve Kleist Ely, MN

I am going to have to get into shotshell reloading.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Use spreaders. IF your going to open the choke I'd do it as a fixed choke not a screw in type.

I have never re-bored a choke so that it does not match what is stamped on the barrel. [Actually I have, once.] I guess I'm thinking of the guy who buys the gun in a pawn shop sometime in the future, after I've gone to the big dove hunt in the sky.

My wife asks, "What am I going to do with all of these blankety-blank guns after you die?" I tell her to use them as bait to snag another husband, which causes her to think.

Maybe I should hire a food taster.

[C.O.B.]

As I stated earlier I have opened the chokes on a couple of Parkers, Gunner's Parker is an excellent example as it was M/F and now it's skt/skt. I have been shooting tighter chokes on sporting clays in the belief tha it might help me concentrate more therefor improve my shooting. If I had a gun that was unsuited to my use and opening the choke would make it beneficial to me then I'd do it and not worry about the next guy who uses it.