The Short Ten - How many shooting one?

[Cold Spring]

Grantham asked about Ithacas. Here are three "Super 10's" All 32-inch, double trigger, extractor guns.

Left gun is the so-called Star model, Full & Full, and is 99+% original in all respects, possibly unfired. Middle one is Mod & Full, with factory BT on an extractor gun, pretty rare I'm told. Right one is also a Star Model and is Full & Full. All three have measured 2-7/8" chambers. I started loading for Short 10's a few months back, and have to say it's pretty addictive. Also very impressive when you turn a clay into diesel smoke.

I don't want to give my time away but all things considered I'm looking forward to ducking this fall and fox calling over the winter. Sorry for the "wifey" background but it's too sunny and HOT to take pics outdoors.

Frank

[Grantham Forester]

I noticed two of your three Ithacas have recoil pads, one does not. Does a good quality pad as shown on your Ithaca guns really help with recoil, less with the 2.88" 10 shell than with the 3.50" shell I should guess. I am thinking about getting a ten, but would want it compatible with steel shot for Geese, as well as coppered loads for Turkey.

And my compliments on both your photography skills and your wife's touch of color- I see many guns listed for sale on GI website with a dark and gloomy background, the color ensemble you used actually enhances the nice grain of the gunstocks, and the metal finish as well.

I see the engraved star pattern, these are the later New Ithaca Double guns, and not the earlier Flews Ithacas, correct??

[Cold Spring]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll tell my wife that the pic backdrop went over well. I've never fired the Super 10 that has the HRBP, so I can't comment about the difference in perceived recoil versus a kick pad.

The Super 10's are NID (New Ithaca Double) guns - not the earlier Flues model. And not to be confused with the later heavier Ithaca Magnum guns made for 3-1/2" shells. The Ithaca NID is an excellent design, similar to A H Foxes with a rotary bolt engaging a slot in the top rib extension.

Personally I'd rather hunt with a vintage 10 gauge like the Ithaca, than with a modern 10 gauge SxS that's compatible with steel shot. I'll use bismuth, Nice or similar non-tox for waterfowl, and regular lead shot for turkeys and predators.

A couple of final pics: This one shows the Super-X type shells these Super 10's were adapted to.



Next one shows an excerpt from Askin's excellent 1929 book, Modern Shotguns and Loads, commenting on his test Super 10 after doing extensive velocity and pattern testing ..... "nearest I ever came to an 80 yard gun".

[Will Gurton]

Still in the process of acquiring the proper loading equipment, but by all means intend to be among the counted.

1906 Remington 1894 CEO.

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Will

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Will Gurton

Still in the process of acquiring the proper loading equipment, but by all means intend to be among the counted.

1906 Remington 1894 CEO.

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Will

If/when you acquire that C grade Remmy 1894 (A C grade 10 would be about as common as hen's teeth) I would like to see more pictures here. Graded Remingtons had some beautiful engraving. Good luck.

[Will Gurton]

JB,

I have the gun. I am in the process of acquiring a loader so that I can afford to shoot it. LOL

Will

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Will Gurton

JB,

I have the gun. I am in the process of acquiring a loader so that I can afford to shoot it. LOL

Will

Congrats, you are going to enjoying loading for it. I assume you have seen my links on the how to and load data? What a great gun, I should have put on a drool bib before looking :-) Fluid steel barrels to boot and ejectors. Puts my B grade Remmy 10 to shame