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Unread 03-12-2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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shot: sorry, no response here...lets get it back on topic as bruce suggested.
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Unread 03-12-2012, 05:23 PM   #2
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Dennis is absolutely correct. There are people here who are disruptive, self serving, and are not liked by other members. I don't understand why they do what they do, but I suspect mental illness or alcohol, not that there is anything wrong with either. We have had problems before and posters have been banned. Ed Muderlak is an example. I always knew that Ed Muderlak had the best intentions for our organization, he just didn't suffer fools well. I have had my bad days with Ed Muderlak, but it had nothing to do with either of us being self serving fools. Maybe a little mental illness, but no alcohol. Muderlak had good reason to be crotchety. He had been mistreated by PGCA leaders in the past. Ed Good is different. He has had no contact with PGCA or its leaders, so has not been mistreated in any way. He admits by his posts that he is out to hurt us, and as been openly critical of PGCA members and the PGCA on other forums. He has been banned before on this forum, and probably deserves to be banned again because of his disruptive behavior. He evades suggestions that he has advertised really abused (by gunsmiths) Parkers on his internet sale sites. He has done just that and should admit it. If he chooses to sell better guns now and in the future, we will figure that out. I don't think we have to treat Ed Good gently. He is not a nice guy. Well, he may be a nice guy with a problem. We should be willing to criticize his behavior like some seem to be unwilling to do. He is here to hurt us and disrupt our wonderful forum. Don't cooperate with him, don't reply to his posts, no matter how interesting he appears to make them. Congratulations to our moderators and webmaster for handling these situations so well.
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... have had problems before and posters have been banned. Ed Muderlak is an example. I always knew ...
To be clear and factual. Mr. Murdelak was not banned from this new forum when it was started years ago. On the previous forum, I wasn't an Admin, so I never carried over any banned users from previous administrators. To be clear as well, only one individual has been banned from this forum permanently. While a few have been given a "time out", it was done while they were informed of why.

If we are going to discuss the facts, I would suggest they be correct.

My thanks for that,

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murphy: wow! now that is clearly unfair, incorrect and down right untrue.

your post could even qualify as "Vitriolic" ?

please do be specific:

how have i admitted by my posts to be out to hurt anyone?

please do provide examples of where i have been critical of pgca members and the pgca on other forums?

you are mistaken. i have never been banned on this forum.

as for my advertising abused parkers. that is a matter of opinion. the fact that most parker guns i sell are in my inventory for less than 60 days, indicates their acceptance by internet buyers.

you are again mistaken. i am here to hurt no one. i am here to learn, contribute and to have some fun. nothing more and nothing less.
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bruce: i am trying to get these guys back on topic... but as you can see some just do not want to go back. i do regret hi jacking your thread. but, when brad showed up here my enthusiasm to pick his brain just got the better of me. for that i do apologize.
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Ed stop acting like Wally running to Mrs Cleaver and complaining about the other boys when they are just reacting to your shenanigans. Just take a time out and go somewhere and dream of Adrienne Barbeau and handcuffs until you are able to play nice and come back on.
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bruce: adrienne barbeau...yeah that frenchie gal in the 80's horror flicks. now i remember...she was ok, but always seemed to me like she needed a bath and a shave.

now brigitte bardot...thats more to my taste. fragile, naughty and approachable. sorta reminds me of the first 20 ga parker i torched...oops, sorry, was not supposed to mention that.

i will take your suggestion though...i will be away for a while. i have work to do. consignments are building up and i gotta take pitchers, up load erm and write descriptions. very time consuming, but somebody's gotta do it. among this latest lot are two nice dh grade guns. watch for them, you know where...
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This was a great thread. I really enjoyed the wonderful photos of all the beautiful guns and Brad's technical information on the case coloring processes he uses. But it seems that it is now all about the people and no longer about the case colors or the Parkers. I can't help but wonder whether this thread has served its intended purpose and should now be mercifully shut down.
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ruff: might not be a bad idea? but should that not be bruce's call?
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and another thing murphy: for you to bring up ed muderlak, or anyone else who is deceased and who is not here to defend himself from the likes of you is low class, to say the least...and if this is attacking a pgca member, such as yourself, then so be it...i aint got time for dis no mo...gotta go to work.
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