8300 PSI TOO MUCH FOR 10 GA TWIST

[Paul Harm]

Couple of years ago I tried the 4756 in 12ga and in the winter shooting skeet you could see the shot go 30 to 50 feet out of the barrel. Got alot of ribbing about not useing enough powder. After asking around I was told that 7625 doesn't have the same problem as 4756. I see it's listed in the SB data. Paul

[David Lien]

Pete: I have had ZERO issues with Green Dot. I load 1 3/8 oz lead shot,but Not at low preasure, or velocitys. This load is impervious to cold Temp., and patterns well . I do not know what the preasures are. I use a Pacific wad and no filler and 6 point crimp. Fed Primer. See what other people (loading books) recomend for powder weights . their is data out their. good luck
David Lien

[charlie cleveland]

clays is also a good choice for tens with 1 ounce to 1 1/4 but thats with 6 point crimp...all of myroll crimp get a squib fairly often espically on cold dayswith all the brands of powder i use..does any body else have this problem.... charlie

[Joe Wood]

I guess I've lived a charmed life cause I have shot hundreds upon hundreds of loads using 4756 and never a single blooper or squib. I do wonder what the difference is in loading. Most of mine are Fed hulls, 4756, Remington SP10 wad and 1 1/4 oz shot with a six point crimp. But it worked equally well with 1 1/2 oz loads using fiber and a roll crimp. Humm.....and I've used these in zero weather.

[10 bore]

Originally Posted by Joe Wood

I guess I've lived a charmed life cause I have shot hundreds upon hundreds of loads using 4756 and never a single blooper or squib. I do wonder what the difference is in loading. Most of mine are Fed hulls, 4756, Remington SP10 wad and 1 1/4 oz shot with a six point crimp. But it worked equally well with 1 1/2 oz loads using fiber and a roll crimp. Humm.....and I've used these in zero weather.

boy, i wish i could say the same.the last time i loaded it for hunting was when i had a turkey at 35 yds and it looked like i tossed the shot at him with my hand, i load blue dot now,now it goes bang . i used up all my 4756 on the trap range and said i would never use it again, scott

[Bill Murphy]

Go on the internet and find the "shotgun powder burning rate" chart. If a powder is slower on the chart than something that works, it isn't neccesarily going to work in zero degree temperatures. How about using stuff that you have used all your life? Why go to some "boutique" powder that is hard to find and expensive? If you want a ten or eight gauge load that is going to work, use your experience. If you want to load a light ten load, like 1 1/8 ounces for skeet or sporting clays or birds, use a fast burning, cheap powder like Red Dot or Bullseye. If you want to load a 1 1/4 ounce load or maybe a 1 3/8 ounce load for pheasants or blue grouse, use Unique. Only if you want to load to full capacity of the ten, 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 ounces, should you use Blue Dot. To use Blue Dot in lighter loads risks bloopers in real cold weather. The reason I suggest these powders is because they are easy to buy, are tested for decades, and can be bought in quantity. Eight gauge shooters should use the same principles. You are shooting out of a big barrel. Your pressures with various loads will be quite low compared to ten and twelve gauge published loads. To load for casual shooting with light shot weights like 1 1/4 ounces, use very fast burning powders like Red Dot. Only when loading 2 ounce loads and heavier for serious waterfowling should you use powders such as Blue Dot.

[Paul Harm]

I use 700X for 1 and 1 1/8oz loads in the 10ga. It's what I use for my 12ga low pressure loads. Never a problem. Been useing it way back in the 70's for trap. Paul

[10 bore]

Originally Posted by Paul Harm

I use 700X for 1 and 1 1/8oz loads in the 10ga. It's what I use for my 12ga low pressure loads. Never a problem. Been useing it way back in the 70's for trap. Paul

i too use 700-x and have not had a "dud" with it with 100's of shots, love it for 1 0z and 1 1/8th oz loads, 18 to 19 grs of powder, scott

[J.B. Books]

This Green Dot load is listed in the current Alliant Reloaders Guide, it is for 3.5" Federal shells. To those who reload for the short ten what do you think about backing the powder off about 10% to 26 grains in a Federal hull cut to 2 7/8"?

Along with 10% less powder I would think that less filler material being needed would also decrease pressure slightly as well (going from 6 .135 cards in the 3.5" to a single .250 16ga fiber filler in the 2 7/8")

I was thinking about trying this in a Twist gun and maybe send the loads to Precision Reloading for analysis of pressure and velocity.

What do those of you who reload for the Short Ten think?

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...uge=10&lid=640

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Pete,

A roll crimp is great for pressure reduction.

Less "ejecta" should lower pressure.

I would start with a "cool" rather than a hot primer.

Mark