Sideplates for the Experts

[Dean Romig]

Functionally it wasn't necessary to file and fit the various parts of the lock in such artistic and visually appealing design... but they did it antway

[B. Dudley]

I hear ya. When I got into my S/N 4216. I could not beleive the appearance of the locks for how old it was. Everything was surprisingly clean and looked like new manufacture. Nothing like many of the other manufacturers.

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[TARNATION !!!]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Functionally it wasn't necessary to file and fit the various parts of the lock in such artistic and visually appealing design... but they did it antway

This is the hallmark of true craftsmen. Perfectly executed products in every dimension regardless of whether or not it is visible to the eye. Harder and harder to find in our modern designed obsolescence world.

[Autumn Daze]

The 3 pin and 4 pin lock grade difference continued until the end of hammergun production.

[Austin W Hogan]

The 3 pin lock used on grade G and below has some axis wiggle. The 4 pin used on D and above does not.

Many guns with s/n less than 4000 - 5000? carry 1878 patents on the inside of the lock, although the gun was made at an earlier date. Some of these also have fore end latches.
These guns may have been display/salesman's samples that were updated before being sold to a customer.

Best, Austin

[edgarspencer]

I'm not sure I follow you Austin. Are you saying a gun made prior to 1878 could have a patent date not yet arrived? I can see if they went back at a later time for repairs and the locks were replaced with newer ones.

To change subjects for a second; Was John Stokes American born, or did he emigrate from England? There was a John Stokes, Lockmaker, in Darleston, Staffs. I remember running across this when trying to find info on a grandfather clock I have that was made in the same town. The town doesn't exist now, being absorbed into Walsall, or one of the other Brum communities. I spent a lot of time there when I represented a foundry in Burton, just to the west.

[edgarspencer]

Nevermind. I see where you indicated they were probably updated.

[edgarspencer]

http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac....ton/Growth.htm
From the first paragraph:
"Gunlock makers usually supplemented their income by doing other types of work, because the gun trade suffered from periods of depression. A typical worker was John Stokes....."
Probably the father of Parker's JS

[edgarspencer]

I can accept that early on, a higher 'Dollar Grade' gun would have had a 'higher grade' lock. This practice is still in use by European makers. However, I would be inclined to think that at some stage, Parker thinking would have standardized on a single lock plate for all guns. This might not have been true prior to the top lever, but I'm not sure there was sufficient argument that the 4th bridgeplate screw made for a smoother lock.