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The steel base shells will give you more headaches than a bottle of cheap wine. As Mr. Forge states, if they are out of a semi auto they need to be resized. Sometimes, twice. And you have to go all the way to the rim. Even some of the brass based hulls are simply brass washed and a steel hull lurks under the brass wash. Need a magnet to detect them by placing the magnet on the side of the hull, not the base with the steel primer cup. jf