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The best of times!
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10-29-2011, 12:00 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Thanks for shareing your hunt.
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10-30-2011, 06:47 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Hi William ,Looks like a couple of good hunts ! Benny looks like he is more than up to the task ! Seems Springers are a natural for retrieving , My Britt Chip will only Retrieve if we are hunting with another Dog ! If we are hunting alone ,he will run to the Bird and stand and wait for me to retrieve it myself ,if we are hunting with another Dog ,then it becomes a foot race to get the dead Bird first and bring it in ! He will also chase and retrieve cripples even while hunting by ourselves . I really don't mind fetching my own Birds ,it could always be worse ,his Mother had a flaw in her character also ,she didn't care much for fetching anything but she would tear after a Woodcock , grab it ,dig a hole ,spit it in and cover it up all in about 30 seconds and then slink off ,I would really have to watch where she put it ,and dig it up and we would move on ????????????? Don't ask ,I have no idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-30-2011, 07:28 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Russ, I have to tell ya, you have me laughing like hell here sitting at the computer. I love the story about the woodcock getting buried. I think all dogs have their little flaws. Benny has his own as well. Sometimes if the bird falls close he will not retrieve it and I will have to walk over and get it. but he will stay with it until I pick it up. I am not one to push a animal and yell and scream. I am easy to please. I think in many ways a dog can pick up on that. In my opinion, (now this is just my opinion) if the dog is a good hunter that is what matters. I do have to say though, it is nice when he goes into the water after it.... Growing up, I always hunted over Springers, my uncle had several. I remember one being an exceptional hunter and she would never retrieve the bird. None of us complained though. Very often each of us would go home with our limits. She was a good dog and to this day I always compare a hunting dog to her. They all have their own personality. I think many hunters over the years will have their "one dog" that stands out above the others.
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10-30-2011, 08:03 PM | #7 | ||||||
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I have to be honest ,I read and understand the teachings and learnings of Force Breaking to Retrieve , for me ,just not that big of deal with an upland hunting dog also as very much an amateur at training ,it is a very easy way to make serious mistakes with your Dog . Now with that said a Water Dog would be a different story and I would take the time and probably the money and put the Dog with a professional for retriever training if I were a Duck hunter ! Russ
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10-30-2011, 08:19 PM | #8 | ||||||
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I don't care for the concept of force breaking. Does it work? Yes. Using force breaking techniques, i suppose you could get a toy poodle to retreive a goose, but after a few generations of force breaking, I believe that you begin to lose natural retrieving ability, and you end with dogs who must be force fetched to retrieve. Sorry. Not for me
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10-30-2011, 08:31 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Russ,
I would have to agree with you. I also understand the method of Force Training. I think the term "Force" just throws peoples thoughts on it, as something that it is not. I hope I did not open up a can of worms here on dog training. I would have to say I am a amateur trainer as well. |
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10-30-2011, 09:04 PM | #10 | ||||||
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William ,I agree ,FORCE ,sounds brutal ,it is not and if done correctly really works , I wouldn't worry about the can of worms ,really I don't believe this to be argumentative ,just not for every body and definately not for the faint of heart . Once you start the program ,you just must be committed to finish it ,Geez ,most guys I know have good intentions on getting that new Pup ready to go and barely find time to do basic yard training with it ,let alone a full scale program !
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