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[Old and Reliable]

Destry, my Falstaffian friend, may I kindly remind you of the rules on the PGCA Forum- No nicknames allowed- we must register and pay our annual "tithe" under our real given name, in my case, Francis Morin.

Respect- funny phrasing coming from you I should guess. Tell you what- you find me ANY Honorable Discharged veteran from ANY branch of our Military to whom I have NOT shown proper respect here on the PGCA, and I'll reconsider your observations- maybe. I personally don't give a BRA about the other forum(s) upon which I may post or respond, they do NOT apply to the PGCA, and are either "Doonesbury" or "Pogo" in their comic scope and nature, for example- Homeless Joe et al. If you chose to take him seriously on the Forum where I post as Run With The Fox (allowable under Dave Weber's rules and regs) that is, of course, your option. But please do NOT disgrace the sancity of this PGCA Forum by rephrasing that sobriquet I use there with your "Hennepin County Windage" it isn't funny, it is uncalled for, and I try to show respect to you and the very few others on the PGCA forum that I may not personally wish to shoot birds with, because that is the "Guy Code" of it all.

Tell you what- let's make this 'respect" thing what the numbers boys call a "zero sum game"- I went to my members list and found that I have made 72 friends on the PGCA since I joined as a paid annual member in May 2009. As that is an 'open book" site on the PGCA, i went to yours- you have been a member since Nov 2008- and have made Zero friends to date.

I also see in PP you are an editor at large (don't worry, I won't take a 'shot' at that, tempting as it may well be-- But since that great article about the trip to Beaver Dam a few years ago that you wrote, I haven't seen anything. I get a lot of "flak' from some of the PGCA members about my "wordiness" and I accept that as one of my faults- But I had a PGCA member. who surmised I know a little about the Model 12's, ask my advice about one with an extra barrel he was looking at-long story short- he asked if I would write an article about the Model 12 and submit it for possible publication in PP, which I have, and Austin Hogan (and others) have read it.

I do NOT know, at this juncture, whether it will be used or not, as the M12 most assuredly is NOT a Parker- but my point is- if you are an editor- when do we get to see your next article- if you already have on "On Deck" with Austin, then- "As you were"--

I wish you no ill here- you are a superb wingshot, and if you do not chose to be my friend, that is your free choice- I offer my friendship openly, if refused- like my Grandfather said- "I don't chew my tobacco twice"- For the good of the harmony we need to grow our beloved PGCA with, let's leave the personal attacks and comments off the PGCA- The other websites (I am not a LCSCA or AHFCA member- so I don't post there, but I am sure they have the same "good conduct" policy as does the PGCA--) well that's a "whole 'nother ballgame"_ isn't it?? If you feel the need to "vent your spleen" against me, please do so on the DoubleGunWorkShoppe, where no one takes anything you, myself or Homeless Joe seriously--

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by Francis Morin

Destry, my Falstaffian friend, may I kindly remind you of the rules on the PGCA Forum- No nicknames allowed- we must register and pay our annual "tithe" under our real given name, in my case, Francis Morin.

Respect- funny phrasing coming from you I should guess. Tell you what- you find me ANY Honorable Discharged veteran from ANY branch of our Military to whom I have NOT shown proper respect here on the PGCA, and I'll reconsider your observations- maybe. I personally don't give a BRA about the other forum(s) upon which I may post or respond, they do NOT apply to the PGCA, and are either "Doonesbury" or "Pogo" in their comic scope and nature, for example- Homeless Joe et al. If you chose to take him seriously on the Forum where I post as Run With The Fox (allowable under Dave Weber's rules and regs) that is, of course, your option. But please do NOT disgrace the sancity of this PGCA Forum by rephrasing that sobriquet I use there with your "Hennepin County Windage" it isn't funny, it is uncalled for, and I try to show respect to you and the very few others on the PGCA forum that I may not personally wish to shoot birds with, because that is the "Guy Code" of it all.

Tell you what- let's make this 'respect" thing what the numbers boys call a "zero sum game"- I went to my members list and found that I have made 72 friends on the PGCA since I joined as a paid annual member in May 2009. As that is an 'open book" site on the PGCA, i went to yours- you have been a member since Nov 2008- and have made Zero friends to date.

I also see in PP you are an editor at large (don't worry, I won't take a 'shot' at that, tempting as it may well be-- But since that great article about the trip to Beaver Dam a few years ago that you wrote, I haven't seen anything. I get a lot of "flak' from some of the PGCA members about my "wordiness" and I accept that as one of my faults- But I had a PGCA member. who surmised I know a little about the Model 12's, ask my advice about one with an extra barrel he was looking at-long story short- he asked if I would write an article about the Model 12 and submit it for possible publication in PP, which I have, and Austin Hogan (and others) have read it.

I do NOT know, at this juncture, whether it will be used or not, as the M12 most assuredly is NOT a Parker- but my point is- if you are an editor- when do we get to see your next article- if you already have on "On Deck" with Austin, then- "As you were"--

I wish you no ill here- you are a superb wingshot, and if you do not chose to be my friend, that is your free choice- I offer my friendship openly, if refused- like my Grandfather said- "I don't chew my tobacco twice"- For the good of the harmony we need to grow our beloved PGCA with, let's leave the personal attacks and comments off the PGCA- The other websites (I am not a LCSCA or AHFCA member- so I don't post there, but I am sure they have the same "good conduct" policy as does the PGCA--) well that's a "whole 'nother ballgame"_ isn't it?? If you feel the need to "vent your spleen" against me, please do so on the DoubleGunWorkShoppe, where no one takes anything you, myself or Homeless Joe seriously--

Sorry Francis, But what the hell are you talking about... Writing for the PP has nothing to do with this thread....

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by Eric Eis

Sorry Francis, But what the hell are you talking about... Writing for the PP has nothing to do with this thread....

My point was- if Destry H. is on the masthead of PP, which, according to recent issue, page 7- he indeed is- as Associate Editor- and brother Romig, who has devoted many unpaid hours to the production of this fine magazine we share in the PGCA, and needs more articles, I was curious as to when his next article might be forthcoming. If Destry spent half the time writing another great story (with photos) as he did a while back about his trip to storied Beaver Dam as he did posting unkind and uncalled for remarks about brother PGCA members, we would all be far better off, at least, IMO. Also, what i said about a PGCA member asking me for advice about a M12 purchase, and then suggesting that I write an article (whether it might be published in PP or not) is true. It was brother David Ross in England, and I have invited him and Russ to hunt with me here in West MI next Fall, if their plans jell.

If you doubt this, and I suspect Destry might, which is his right- then, as the late Casey "Stinky" Stengall said when manager of the Yankees- re: stats and records in MLB-- "Well, you can always go and look it up somewhere"-- a checky-check of both my PM's and David's (open to all here) will so verify my statement.

Like all of us, I do have my faults, and I will freely admit that without reservations- But being disloyal to my friends isn't one of them!!!

[Opening Day]

Sorry Francis I still do not see your point. So Destry is listed as an Asso. Editor in PP so what, he has written articles in the past for the PP and given great accounts of his hunts on this board so why are you still trying to beat him up..? Sorry don't get it. Just leave this thread alone it's getting very tiresome listening to your posts , I agree with Bruce maybe JD should just shut down this thread. It's getting old. I thought we were talking about near new or new in box shotguns and you have taken someplace else. Eric

[John D.]

Originally Posted by Francis Morin

My point was-....Like all of us, I do have my faults, and I will freely admit that without reservations- But being disloyal to my friends isn't one of them!!!

I did not make it all the way to your "point".

As I told Mr. Hoffard - if you have an itch in your kilt - scratch it in private.

Thank you.

John

[C.O.B.]

All BS aside the LC Smith is a wonderfull and rare gun indeed. It aspires to a certain buyer/collector being NIB. That genre is no longer my cup of tea but that doesn't detract from this wonderfull shotgu. I have had NIB guns befor, a couple of repo's and a Win M70 .358 FWT with all the paperwork. I sold them all and haven't regretted it as I want to "enjoy the color" befor the next caretaker does.

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by Richard Anderson

All BS aside the LC Smith is a wonderfull and rare gun indeed. It aspires to a certain buyer/collector being NIB. That genre is no longer my cup of tea but that doesn't detract from this wonderfull shotgu. I have had NIB guns befor, a couple of repo's and a Win M70 .358 FWT with all the paperwork. I sold them all and haven't regretted it as I want to "enjoy the color" befor the next caretaker does.

I have gone the opposite route in my gun purchases (except for one- happened to be a LC Smith) as I ascribe to the Ernest Hemingway school of thought re: guns- that being- "A gun is to shoot" With the possible exception of his G&H Springfield, his Model 12 with solid rib, and a few Winchester .22's- he bought almost all his guns second or even third hand--

I was wrong to comment on the box and tag- I am a "doubting Thomas" by nature when it comes to spending my $- and tend to view some things as possibly being 'counterfeit' just because of the old adage- "If it sounds too good to be true, it ain't"!! I do see Galazan's advertising L.C. Smith hang tags- blank for about $35.00 and I wonder -why? But, there are those, and rightfully so, that want the original boxes, tags, instruction booklets as much as the near MINT gun itself.

About 4 years ago I bought a 12 Grade 1 LC Smith- DT- 30" that had been restored- supposedly by Turnbull, although the seller didn't have the provenance to prove it- looked like a new Smith- flawless- and I took it out a few times for banr pigeons and shot it very well- BUT- something about the "New" compared to my "wear with care" guns- so when a friend offered me about what I paid for it- I sold it to him. He's as happy as a lark with it-