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Yup...the good ones are very scarce indeed....My best buy in recent days was a 1925 PHE 16 with 26" steel barrels Skeet and lt-full, all orignal parts with a Delgrco senior restoration that is superb! 6 lbs-5 3/4 oz Perfect modern dementions over DHBP...The gun looks new except for the color case job Delgreco used...)-: It will be in the P.A. grouse woods this fall to live again! SXS ohio...(-: