China ? NO NO NO.

[david ross]

Hi Francis.
I think the battle of Britain was the turning point of the war for us in England
owr first victory over the Nazis. Then after that came victory in north africa
and the end of the africa core for the germans the race to Egypt was over.
As Churchill said in 1940 before the USA came in to ww2 although we could have never of won that war with out the USA by our side.
Winnies tridute to the RAF.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many by so few
and if the british empire shall last a thousand years people will say this was
there finest hour. As i write these words it brings a lump to my throut.
Sorry to go on abought old winney but he is a hero of mine and i think the
greatest English man ever to live althought his mother was a American.
So if you have a hero fly your flag for them.
All the best Dave .
P.S. As you fought by our side ww2 as you fight to day in Afghanistan by our
side once more. My God protect all our troops were ever thay are.

Originally Posted by david ross

Hi Francis.
I think the battle of Britain was the turning point of the war for us in England
owr first victory over the Nazis. Then after that came victory in north africa
and the end of the africa core for the germans the race to Egypt was over.
As Churchill said in 1940 before the USA came in to ww2 although we could have never of won that war with out the USA by our side.
Winnies tridute to the RAF.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many by so few
and if the british empire shall last a thousand years people will say this was
there finest hour. As i write these words it brings a lump to my throut.
Sorry to go on abought old winney but he is a hero of mine and i think the
greatest English man ever to live althought his mother was a American.
So if you have a hero fly your flag for them.
All the best Dave .
P.S. As you fought by our side ww2 as you fight to day in Afghanistan by our
side once more. My God protect all our troops were ever thay are.

-Rommel depended on shipments of crucial supplies, including parts and ammo for his Afrika Corps- the Germans in their alliance with the Italians thought, with their code intact, they owned the shipping lanes from Italy to the North coast of Africa- once the Allies had the code key, they knew the details of every shipment to Rommel, and many ships went down in the Med Sea with his much needed supply chain broken- It did Rommel little good to capture Tobruck intact- except for food and medicine- as the Brits and the American tanks ran on gasoline, the Panzer Tanks on diesel fuel-- Montgomery was no match for the wily Rommel- Die Wiestul Fuchs-- it took someone like George Patton to defeat Rommel, and that might not have happened without the code breakers "lucky break". I can only wonder how the European theatre might have turned out if Patton had not slapped the coward in the field hospital in Sicily!!

[david ross]

Originally Posted by Francis Morin

-Rommel depended on shipments of crucial supplies, including parts and ammo for his Afrika Corps- the Germans in their alliance with the Italians thought, with their code intact, they owned the shipping lanes from Italy to the North coast of Africa- once the Allies had the code key, they knew the details of every shipment to Rommel, and many ships went down in the Med Sea with his much needed supply chain broken- It did Rommel little good to capture Tobruck intact- except for food and medicine- as the Brits and the American tanks ran on gasoline, the Panzer Tanks on diesel fuel-- Montgomery was no match for the wily Rommel- Die Wiestul Fuchs-- it took someone like George Patton to defeat Rommel, and that might not have happened without the code breakers "lucky break". I can only wonder how the European theatre might have turned out if Patton had not slapped the coward in the field hospital in Sicily!!

Hi Francis.
Yes i think your right monty was not a match for Rommel he was to cautious
and did not push as Patton did but the 8th army desert rats were and got the
job done I have a feeling that if Patton and his tanks had gone up that road
to Arnhem our 6th airbourne boys would of taken that bridge.
Monty was good at the set peace battle but he would not take a chance as
Patton would.

All the best Dave.

Worked well for Frederick The Great and George Patton too- but Patton's ace in the hole was Colonel Wm. Koch -his brilliant G-2 Chief--

[C.O.B.]

Unfortunatly the focus is on price & profit not quality. i pick up my newest shotgun tomorrow, made in London in 1954 Quality in anything beats price. the cost of something is long forgotten when it falls apart. How many things being made today anywhere in the world will be working in 50, or 150 years from now? If something is still working then will it's value have increased dramatically? I think the ansers are No & No

[david ross]

Originally Posted by Richard Anderson

Unfortunatly the focus is on price & profit not quality. i pick up my newest shotgun tomorrow, made in London in 1954 Quality in anything beats price. the cost of something is long forgotten when it falls apart. How many things being made today anywhere in the world will be working in 50, or 150 years from now? If something is still working then will it's value have increased dramatically? I think the ansers are No & No

Hi Richard.
Would like to see your new London gun made in 1954 please could you
post a pict or two with some details.
All the best Dave.

[C.O.B.]

I'll post some pics in the Other fine doubles forum soon. I'm not good at this and need to be walked through the process.

The details are it's a Holland & Holland 20 ga, 26 inch bbls straight grip with just a wonderfull piece of Marble cake walnut in it. There is a factory letter and the gun is exactly as it left the factory in 1954. It was sold originally in London. Cased with the original owners name embossed on the Oak and Leather case. Weight 5lb 9oz a Grouse/Woodcock gun for sure