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Chuck, What I use is right out off the Alliant website. Remington hull, CB0178 wad, 18 hrs Clay Dot. I use a Win primer, rather than a Remington. I spoke to Alliant about the substitution and they said no problem. Also, American Select and the Claybuster wad are a great low pressure combination. I've found you need to push American Select fast for a clean burn under a 7/8 oz load.