Calvin, the 17 is as you thought and Keith described; it's the tightest grouping round I have used (0.5 moa). Sam sure looks and is marked like Ringo, a lot more so than the new kid, Pete. When I got Ring as a pup some 15 years ago, the wife of the guy who sold him to me had named him Spot because of the mark at his tail. If I had known that at the time, I would have called him Spot myself. Couple of pics: first, Pete; second, old cripped up Ring and Pete heading out together.
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