16ga

[Andy]

I can find 16g ammo just fine. It's expensive and very testy so that pretty much rules out the vintage guns. With Longshot, Perfect Pattern and powders and wads available it isn't hard to grab a single stage press and load what you like, especially if you thought ahead and kept about six gazillion RST hulls like I did. That being said, BP usually has primed Cheddite hulls so the ammo argument never held water with me. If you're a competitive shooter perhaps but then again you'll usually have a modern O/U. As far as the 28g goes, I DO BELIEVE that is GOD'S preferred gauge. I love them. But I'm a sinner so don't have one (in a Parker) yet.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

I can find 16g ammo just fine. It's expensive and very testy so that pretty much rules out the vintage guns. With Longshot, Perfect Pattern and powders and wads available it isn't hard to grab a single stage press and load what you like, especially if you thought ahead and kept about six gazillion RST hulls like I did. That being said, BP usually has primed Cheddite hulls so the ammo argument never held water with me. If you're a competitive shooter perhaps but then again you'll usually have a modern O/U. As far as the 28g goes, I DO BELIEVE that is GOD'S preferred gauge. I love them. But I'm a sinner so don't have one (in a Parker) yet.

Andy, there was a time in the 80s-90s that 16g ammo was very hard to find. I couldn’t find it in any of our local hardware stores and gun shops. First time I found a quantity for sale was around 91-92 when Shawmut Distributors had some. I still have some of those boxes of hunting loads.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Mike Koneski

Andy, there was a time in the 80s-90s that 16g ammo was very hard to find. I couldn’t find it in any of our local hardware stores and gun shops. First time I found a quantity for sale was around 91-92 when Shawmut Distributors had some. I still have some of those boxes of hunting loads.

My dad fell for that too. I still have a case of 1980s vintage Remington hunting loads. Plastic hulls with fiber wads. Too hot for my liking

[edgarspencer]

All this talk about 2.5" 16s on the for-sale thread reminded me, I still have a Belgian Browning auto loader. That only takes 2.5 also. I completely forgot I still had that gun because I recall my son saying he wanted it. Being a southpaw, I never liked shooting them.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

All this talk about 2.5" 16s on the for-sale thread reminded me, I still have a Belgian Browning auto loader. That only takes 2.5 also. I completely forgot I still had that gun because I recall my son saying he wanted it. Being a southpaw, I never liked shooting them.

Edgar, are you're sure it's not 2 9/16" chambers?

[Romac]

I have so many 16's that unless I go to my files to check, I'd probably guess wrong. Let's just say at least 10 but maybe a tad over. For me it's' not the shell or it's payload, but the weight of the gun and its' handling qualities.

I sent a pristine CSMC RBL in 16 down the road because to me it was clunky. I also sold a Paker Trojan because it carried like a 12 to me and I just could not see myself ever picking it over some of my other guns to go hunting. I've also sold others; Foxes, LS Smiths, Masqueliers, Ithacas, Bakers for the same reasons.

Right now, my favorite 16's are a 3-gun battery of Foxes, an XE with 26-inch barrels, another with 28-inch barrels and a 28/30 inch combo custom gun I had built for me and engraved by Geoffroy Gournet that is as nice or nicer than any of the CSMC Foxes ever built. They all get used and run from just under 6 pounds to about 6.5 pounds. They are pretty, but it is the handling qualities that make them useful to me.

As far as availability of shells, all you need to do is get your wallet out and order up some RST's. Complaining is like owning a Bentley and whining about the price of gas.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

Edgar, are you're sure it's not 2 9/16" chambers?

Stan, the only thing I'm sure about lately is my name.
Took me a minute to find the gun, but it's marked 16/65 in an oval, which I take to mean 2.5". Double checking with the gauge, it measures 2.5" to the bottom of the rim recess.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

My dad fell for that too. I still have a case of 1980s vintage Remington hunting loads. Plastic hulls with fiber wads. Too hot for my liking

The only shells we could find were those “booger breaker” game loads and they were snotty! (See what just happened there?) Most guys wouldn’t think of shooting them out of a vintage double. They’d most likely be fine for hunting. A few shots over the course of a day. But I wouldn’t subject old stocks to that pounding in a round of clays.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Mike Koneski

Andy, there was a time in the 80s-90s that 16g ammo was very hard to find. I couldn’t find it in any of our local hardware stores and gun shops. First time I found a quantity for sale was around 91-92 when Shawmut Distributors had some. I still have some of those boxes of hunting loads.

Back in those days I was in Philthy going to school and all I owned was 20g. I am well aware of why it isn't as popular. In my mind all shotguns are to be loved : )