Runge and possibly Del Grego records

[Bill Murphy]

The "T" marking on the barrel flat would indicate that your barrels were originally Titanic Steel, not Peerless. The rib markings are very well done, but not original Parker Brothers. Shelly Gitman commissioned Robert Runge to upgrade Parkers to have one of each grade and each gauge. John Davis's SAA upgrade is probably not a Gitman gun. I say that because his SAA upgrade is known to be in a private collection, and is likely the only one of that grade and type commissioned by Gitman. That gun and John Davis's gun are identical in engraving patterns. I have never seen a Runge gun with gold line inlays like Paul Wade's gun. However, the spurious marking are very high quality. What a great gun.

[FewOldGuns]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

The "T" marking on the barrel flat would indicate that your barrels were originally Titanic Steel, not Peerless. The rib markings are very well done, but not original Parker Brothers. Shelly Gitman commissioned Robert Runge to upgrade Parkers to have one of each grade and each gauge. John Davis's SAA upgrade is probably not a Gitman gun. I say that because his SAA upgrade is known to be in a private collection, and is likely the only one of that grade and type commissioned by Gitman. That gun and John Davis's gun are identical in engraving patterns. I have never seen a Runge gun with gold line inlays like Paul Wade's gun. However, the spurious marking are very high quality. What a great gun.

Thank you! That solves the Peerless question. VERY MUCH appreciated.

Making progress!!!

[FewOldGuns]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

John Davis's SAA upgrade is probably not a Gitman gun. I say that because his SAA upgrade is known to be in a private collection. I have never seen a Runge gun with gold line inlays like Paul Wade's gun. However, the spurious marking are very high quality. What a great gun.

I have tried to find out what "SAA" means but can't figure it out - just makes me think of Colts What does that mean?

To my wild a$$ theory who else engraved for Remington? Runge is apparently eliminated from possibilities.

[Bill Murphy]

The SAA is the Parker Brothers catalog designation for the AA grade single trap gun. S for single, AA for the grade. According to the records and my recollection, only one SAA grade was made by the Parker Brothers and Remington. John Davis owns quite a piece of Parker and Runge history. Runge may or may not have engraved the "one" original Parker SAA gun.

[John Davis]

Bill, I believe there were two known SAA’s made. Always a possibility of more. My “SAA” started life in 1919 as an SC. It was upgraded in 1964? by Runge as signed and dated.