What do you think of this one?

[Researcher]

Thanks for getting us the pictures, Larry.

It clearly has a WE3 (W = August E = 1936) Remington repair code to legitimize the SKEET IN/SKEET OUT markings.

Wonder what length skeet load it is chambered for --

Xpert 28-gauge, SKEET LOAD, 2 1-2 inch.jpg

Xpert 28-gauge, SKEET LOAD, 2 3-4 inch 01 load flap.jpg

Super-X 28-gauge 2 7-8-inch Skeet Load.jpeg

[Dean Romig]

Right Dave, it might but there are no records of what the service (3) might have been. It could have been to alter and mark the chokes…





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[Dean Romig]

And since we now can see both the single 0-frame stamp as well as the double 00-frame stamp we are lead to wonder what the firing pin spacing is…





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[Bill Murphy]

Dean, where does the information about this gun being a 1920 0 frame 28 gauge come from? Our home page search shows no information. I've never seen an 0 frame 28 with lightening cuts in the frame. I'm sure it's a righteous 00 frame gun. Dave picked up the Remington repair codes that I couldn't see without a magnifier.

[edgarspencer]

Wouldn't genuine Whitworth tubes be individually serialized just forward of the barrel flats?

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Dean, where does the information about this gun being a 1920 0 frame 28 gauge come from? Our home page search shows no information. I've never seen an 0 frame 28 with lightening cuts in the frame. I'm sure it's a righteous 00 frame gun. Dave picked up the Remington repair codes that I couldn't see without a magnifier.

Bill, we know the serial number is a 1920 production number.
The two different frame sizes stamped in the barrel lug bring the question of which one is original.
The frame doesn’t give any information but the serial number.
To my mind the barrels are suspect, but not the frame with the lightening cuts found on 00-frame 28 gauge guns and .410’s.

The Remington codes don’t tell us anything about what service (3) was performed… It could have been choke work and Skeet stamps… or not.





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[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

Wouldn't genuine Whitworth tubes be individually serialized just forward of the barrel flats?

Edgar, early on as in pre 1900 there was a time when PB did stamp the order number on barrels. This number was not the same as the serial number per TPS. I am not aware of individually serialized barrel serial numbers on Whitworth barrels, maybe someone has such a specimen. I have 3 sets of Whitworth, all are post 1900. Going from memory none have numbers stamped forward of the flats, 1 has what I presumed was an order number on each flat, 1 has an order number on 1 flat, and the last has no numbers at all. These presumably order numbers differ from the serial numbers.

[Dean Romig]

Here you go Randy…

[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Here you go Randy…

Perfect Dean, so some have the serial number and one would presume that the other non-matching number on some would be an order number. Thanks !!

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts

Edgar, early on as in pre 1900 there was a time when PB did stamp the order number on barrels. This number was not the same as the serial number per TPS. I am not aware of individually serialized barrel serial numbers on Whitworth barrels, maybe someone has such a specimen. I have 3 sets of Whitworth, all are post 1900. Going from memory none have numbers stamped forward of the flats, 1 has what I presumed was an order number on each flat, 1 has an order number on 1 flat, and the last has no numbers at all. These presumably order numbers differ from the serial numbers.

Randy, There is a photograph of John Allen's AAH 28 ga, SN 178209, shown on page 332 in the Parker Story, and references Whitworth tube serial numbers 49131 and 49132, shown stamped on the barrel flats. The bottom of page 334, it states "Many Parker guns that we have seen with Whitworth steel barrels have the serial number of the Whitworth tube stamped on the flats of each tube." I guess the key word is 'Many', as opposed to all. I am familiar with one particular AAH 12 ga, where the Whitworth serial numbers (consecutive, not the same as an order number might be) stamped well forward of the barrel flats.
Interestingly, the Parker Story states that Whitworth Barrels were replaced by Peerless barrels prior to 1920.