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Unread 02-03-2025, 06:29 AM   #1
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Not exactly. This is the original pad on my Fox XE20 gauge. Note that it has a cheek piece and it was ordered and built that way.

The gun has been stored horizontally, and dark, for the last 38 years and this is what the pad ended up looking like. There was no weight on the pad.

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Not exactly. This is the original pad on my Fox XE20 gauge. Note that it has a cheek piece and it was ordered and built that way.

The gun has been stored horizontally, and dark, for the last 38 years and this is what the pad ended up looking like. There was no weight on the pad.

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I started my career working for Garlock a rubber products company. I believe the reason Bill's Fox pad deteriorated was the rubber was not properly vulcanized when made. I believe rock hard pads results from the loss of the lubricates originally compounded with the rubber. Same reason vinyl gets hard and cracks with age.
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Seems like a good time to ask although i am sure this has been addressed before - what are your thoughts on clenzoil?? Or is there another oil you prefer?

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Seems like a good time to ask although i am sure this has been addressed before - what are your thoughts on clenzoil?? Or is there another oil you prefer?

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They're all good. Just use sparingly. I prefer Ballistol. I think Parker Bros. back in the day recommended 3in1 oil.
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Here is a candidate for dried up and sat leaned up against a wall for 50 years or so without use or moving much if at all. Not saying it would be much better if it had sat on the barrel or any other way .. but .. here it is
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I use a number of lubricant's, that has been mentioned here. The trick is use what ever you use sparingly.
Many times I use Ballistol but don't like the smell. Ezzox is what I am currently using. It works great and has a very pleasant odor. I like to use socks to protect the guns as I don't like metal to metal contact.
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I've had the doubles, and rifles, that are in my safe muzzle down for roughly 25 years.The safe is carpet lined on floor and all interior walls. I've never opened the safe and seen where one has fallen over on another. It just doesn't happen.

Newton's First Law of Motion states that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless an external force acts upon it. Similarly, if the object is at rest, it will remain unless an unbalanced force acts upon it. Newton's First Law of Motion is also known as the Law of Inertia. What Newton's First Law is saying is that objects behave predictably.

Pretty sure guns are not exempt from this. If the gun is in a balanced state when you close the safe it will be in a balanced state when you open it. Nothing nefarious will be going on in there just because you can't see them, and I'm pretty sure the safe isn't going to be acted upon by any outside force sufficient to cause guns to fall over.
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Jollif is right. A deteriorated or flattened pad has nothing to do with the gun standing butt down in a safe. No, I have no idea what causes it but it must have something to do with temperature or humidity.
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