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Well then I need to re-think. Last event I was at was the first Vintagers at Orvis in NY to me it was a turn off. I had a grand time there hanging with my friend the late Bill Wise. We talked all day about Linder's and riding the pipes on long boards, he was the first old time surfer I ever met that surfed the Gas Chambers and the Mavricks. Many who knew Bill didn't even know at one time he was the baddest east coast surfer who went to HI brought back with him the velcro wallet and the bikini.
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