My first Ithaca

[Jay Oliver]

I see it is possible to get a research letter on these as well. I will order one after the holidays...

[David Noble]

That's a great looking gun Jay. So, are you going to get the original wood repaired and refinished, or have new wood made for it? I would vote for restoration of the original wood.
I'm an ejector guy myself, and agree that damascus guns with ejectors are something special. Good find!

[George Lang]

Beautiful example of an early Ithaca, can't wait to see the finished project. Looks to be a grade 4 late Crass or early Lewis model.

[Researcher]

Congratulations on your beautiful Crass No. 4E.

There is a similar No. 4E pictured on Pages 288 and 289 of the Second Edition of Walter Snyder's book, with the engraving attributed to Robert Runge Sr. by his son. That gun has, the typical for No. 4s, American Flag Damascus barrels.

Calling Dr. Drew to identify the Damascus on this gun.

[Drew Hause]

Spectacular gun

The Crass & Lewis era catalogs listed the No. 3 as "Fine Damascus" and No. 4 as "Very Fine Damascus"; Crown steel was also listed for both.
I've seen Chain on a Crass & Lewis Gr. 3 and both "Washington" (no stars in the scrolls) and "American Flag" (with stars) on a Lewis Gr. 4, and "American Flag" on this Lewis I believe is a Pigeon No. 2



Jay's gun is a 4 Iron "Oxford" Crolle.
I tried to enhance the image and the arrows indicate the ribband edge where the scrolls were squished (how's that for engineering exactitude? ) when the edges were "jumped". The arrow on the far R shows the straight ribband edge weld rather than the 'zipper' welds between the rods



Flues No. 3 were "Chain Damascus" and No. 4 "American Flag"; Krupp was also listed for both at least c. 1915.

[edgarspencer]

Very similar rib extension to the 'enhanced Trojan' discussed in another thread.