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On July 29th, this site will be moving..! No, really - it's "moving" to another physical location - including servers, gateways, routers - everything - including my coffee cup...
So, from the date of July 29th through July 30 or 31 (shooting for these dates, but - as always, I'm at the mercy of my ISP who has to install the lines to the new location - and we actually get them running ;) ). But - this site, cloud servers and main web will be OFF LINE.
Now, please save these dates!! Please - don't be "that guy" who emails me on the 30th to tell me you "can't open the Parker Website". I'll already know it is offline - and also know that you are "that guy"...
I'll take this notice up and down over the next week or so - and leave it up during the final few days before shutting it off on the 29th..
I picked up this 12ga Ithaca up over the summer. It seems like a a worthy project, though I haven’t done anything to it yet. It needs stock work, a mechanical cleaning and the left firing pin in not installed though I have it. I believe this is a 1897 gun, it’s cool that it has ejectors, nothing better than a damascus gun with ejectors and the right side dog engraving looks a little like my dog.
It feels and looks like the equivalent of a Parker on a #3 frame. It weighs 8 3/4lbs. Barrels are 30 inches and the bores are mint. I always like a straight stock. I will get it sent out for some much needed attention in 2025. Should be wonderful when it is fixed.
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but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."
George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
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That's a great looking gun Jay. So, are you going to get the original wood repaired and refinished, or have new wood made for it? I would vote for restoration of the original wood.
I'm an ejector guy myself, and agree that damascus guns with ejectors are something special. Good find!
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There is a similar No. 4E pictured on Pages 288 and 289 of the Second Edition of Walter Snyder's book, with the engraving attributed to Robert Runge Sr. by his son. That gun has, the typical for No. 4s, American Flag Damascus barrels.
Calling Dr. Drew to identify the Damascus on this gun.
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The Crass & Lewis era catalogs listed the No. 3 as "Fine Damascus" and No. 4 as "Very Fine Damascus"; Crown steel was also listed for both.
I've seen Chain on a Crass & Lewis Gr. 3 and both "Washington" (no stars in the scrolls) and "American Flag" (with stars) on a Lewis Gr. 4, and "American Flag" on this Lewis I believe is a Pigeon No. 2
Jay's gun is a 4 Iron "Oxford" Crolle.
I tried to enhance the image and the arrows indicate the ribband edge where the scrolls were squished (how's that for engineering exactitude? ) when the edges were "jumped". The arrow on the far R shows the straight ribband edge weld rather than the 'zipper' welds between the rods
Flues No. 3 were "Chain Damascus" and No. 4 "American Flag"; Krupp was also listed for both at least c. 1915.