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Unread 05-04-2011, 04:55 PM   #1
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I asked four questions intended to spark thoughtful discussion among non forum lookers, forum members and pgca members

Would it be possible to have dealer members post parkers for sale here like we used to do in the Parker pages

How do we move lookers into becoming forum members

How do we move forum members into becoming pgca members

I commented that it seemed to me that this forum had become the pre eminant shotguN collecting site and I asked if there was any way to measure that


For those questions I got what I felt were inappropriate comments so I withdrew the question.

I am presently out in the hill sending this on a cell phone so - apologize if this post is not up to grammatical standards.i
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Unread 05-04-2011, 06:12 PM   #2
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You made a reasonable post, why you pulled it is not obvious to me and in my opinion, pulling it was unreasonable. I didn't see anything about any of the questions that your post generated that warranted it being deleted. I would assume that if the thread was "out of control" it would be pulled in total by administrators.

Your post was good, it generated a good exchange of valuable comments. It was only after you pulled the original post that things got confused.

Posting on any forum is like pulling the trigger, after the bullet (or post) leaves the barrel, you can't take it back.

Just my $.02 worth; but with inflation it isn't worth that much anymore.


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I asked four questions intended to spark thoughtful discussion among non forum lookers, forum members and pgca members

Would it be possible to have dealer members post parkers for sale here like we used to do in the Parker pages

How do we move lookers into becoming forum members

How do we move forum members into becoming pgca members

I commented that it seemed to me that this forum had become the pre eminant shotguN collecting site and I asked if there was any way to measure that


For those questions I got what I felt were inappropriate comments so I withdrew the question.

I am presently out in the hill sending this on a cell phone so - apologize if this post is not up to grammatical standards.i
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Unread 05-04-2011, 07:57 PM   #3
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....why you pulled it is not obvious to me and in my opinion, pulling it was unreasonable....
Except for the facts that....

1) I sent a confidential document to the BOD and Staff as an overview of the Website. Many of the stats are alluded to in the OPs initial post, yet diluted in the subsequent post. In fact - and in short - the first post in this forum began with "Hey John". I presume I was that "John".

2) The OP asked a question - which was my idea and a discussion point I had IN PRIVATE to a few of the BOD and other interested parties (Dealers posting in the for sale area) - which again, were private conversations and frankly - had anyone asked - are contingent upon tertiary action items which would have to occur well before that plan is in place (things like Sponsorship, advertising rates, whatever. Without THOSE - the Dealer for sale really doesn't make a whole lot of sense in growing PGCA, becuase we will be either shortchanging ourselves OR those same dealers.).

3) Thank Gawd I didn't discuss other ideas I have had in the making - as again - they would have appeared in this thread as well.

In short - when my private conversations are blasted across the General Forum without remorse or consideration to those of us who have the day to day task of delivering this forum, then something is broken.


4) Dean was/is correct. This conversation belongs in the PGCA Member forum - but you know what? I'm all done caring.

So you folks carry on.

Soon enough, my guess is - you folks will soon have a new Admin, on-line Membership guy, web hosting service (I do that too), new PHP and SQL programmer, a new guy to pay for the code, the servers, the circuits, hardware each and every day - and shucks - just a new guy...

When folks don't give a crap about what they post - I lose interest.

But....

I won't lose my professionalism.

When I have private conversations, I expect them to remain so - until I have something to announce.

I don't need others to do it on my behalf.

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Soon enough, my guess is - you folks will soon have a new Admin, on-line Membership guy, web hosting service (I do that too), new PHP and SQL programmer, a new guy to pay for the code, the servers, the circuits, hardware each and every day - and shucks - just a new guy...
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John, please don't. Your efforts, your words... all you do are so appreciated by the vast majority of those who use this forum. I know how you feel and what you're thinking... we've spoken privately and I understand. Just know that you are appreciated and are such an integral part of "who we are" and how we appear to those who come to this forum for knowledge and comeradship. You're the glue, man - the bonding agent. Dean
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