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Bill, I had the screws as tight as I could get them before I tried the the vise. The screw slots were a little buggered when I got the gun so maybe if the slots were cleaner I could have brought the floorplate down with the screws I dont know. the vise worked well and it was nice not to have to remove the floor plate to do it. Although I could see how if you arent careful you could really screw up