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Unread 07-13-2024, 08:35 AM   #1
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Thanks Jim, yes I'm aware the Patented WS1 choke is a reverse bell/hourglass profile, and unless special ordered the WS1 was typically on the right barrel of 21's. Same with the special hourglass profiled/right barrel choke of Fox "Skeet and Upland" guns whether double or single triggered. Not sure how Savage/Fox worked around Winchester's Patent. All told it seems that Parker's system for Skeet with left barrel more open choked was atypical.

Adding to my earlier post, I also owned a 16g Model 21 s/n 161xx that was stamped "Skeet" on the trigger plate, and it had full tapered chokes in both barrels, no reverse bell/hourglass choke in either. Right barrel .012" constriction and .015" in the left barrel. Winchester would do pattern testing and boring adjustments to confirm patterning as intended/ordered ..... the Big Red W didn't just rely on the difference between bore and choke diameters. Quality from a well respected company!
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Unless special ordered the WS1 was typically on the right barrel of 21's. Same with the special hourglass profiled/right barrel choke of Fox "Skeet and Upland" guns whether double or single triggered. Not sure how Savage/Fox worked around Winchester's Patent. All told it seems that Parker's system for Skeet with left barrel more open choked was atypical.!

Just a point - Parker’s Skeet choking was quite typical in that the more tightly choked barrel (first shot at the outgoing clay) was ‘typically’ the right barrel, just as was Winchester’s WS1 in the right barrel of the 21’s.





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Dean, you have the Winchester chokes backwards. The WS1 is the more open choke, which would be like the Parker "Skeet In".
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