Defining a Parker Long Range shotgun

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by todd allen

Were you in that part of Mexico about 20 years ago?

No, only in Cancun and Tijuana.

[Double Lab]

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro

No, only in Cancun and Tijuana.

I'll bet there are some stories linked with those two locations.

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Kevin McCormack

So far as I understood it, Parkers chambered for 3" shells at the factory are easily distinguished as such vs. essentially larger framed (e.g. 2 and 3-framed guns) 12 ga. guns whose chambers were lengthened after market to accept 3" shells; if you lay as straightedge along the FULL LENGTH of an original factory 3" chambered gun, there is no "swamp" or taper to the barrels, they are straight along the full length of the barrel. Guns bored after market show a decided taper or "dip" to the parallel line from breech to muzzle. And as the case with Fox HE grade guns, most were marked "3 " but not all of them.

I've recently become interested in these late Parker 1-1/2 frame/3-inch Long Range guns. I highlighted part of Kevin's post and question whether they really were straight along the full length of the barrel from breech to muzzle? The width across the 1-1/2 frame barrel breech is about 2.290" and width across the muzzles (32” barrel) is about 1.610". And if perfectly straight and without a transition “swamp” for at least a few inches forward of the breeches that might make for a decided heft and odd look to the back end of the barrels.

Or is it, that the barrels are straight tapered without a swamp from a point beginning some inches (10-12?) ahead of the breech and out to the muzzle?

Can someone with an original late 12 ga/3-inch gun on a 1-1/2 frame please check this for us?

[OH Osthaus]

I think many of us would rate the 32” 3 frame 12 ga Parker as being as close to the Super Fox as Parker made

[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by Rick Losey

I think many of us would rate the 32” 3 frame 12 ga Parker as being as close to the Super Fox as Parker made

Rick there will be one of these at Hausmanns, actually a 34" 12 on the 3 frame with Damascus barrels. 152 thou at the end of the chambers. Unstruck barrel weight of 6-8 with a total weight at 1 oz under 10 lbs.

[Reggie B]

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts

Rick there will be one of these at Hausmanns, actually a 34" 12 on the 3 frame with Damascus barrels. 152 thou at the end of the chambers. Unstruck barrel weight of 6-8 with a total weight at 1 oz under 10 lbs.

Is that one you will be shooting Randy? Or displaying?

[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

Is that one you will be shooting Randy? Or displaying?

It will be in the Peoples Choice Awards. I do shoot wobble trap with it, plenty of choke.

[Bill Murphy]

The guns that Parker Brothers or Remington advertised as "Long Range" guns with 3" chambers were not similar or identical to earlier 3" chamber 12 gauge guns. The thirties vintage 3" guns were lightly constructed #1 1/2 frame guns. Many, well, maybe not many, earlier guns chambered for 3" shells were built on many different frames, #2, #3, and a very few eight gauge rebarrels on #6 frames. However, they were built earlier than the Remington advertised "Long Range" guns on # 1 1/2 frames. As earlier posted, it is assumed that the Remington era "Long Range" guns were straight tapered from the breech, but an actual wall thickness measurement would confirm that assumption. I have yet to hear from someone who has made and posted those measurements.

[Reggie B]

Parker 1 frame 20/32" with 2 7/8 chambers, choked F/F is my "long range" gun. Oh and I also have an Elsie Crown 20/32", 3" chambers, F/F that probably would qualify as well. My two Fox 20/32" don't have the long chambers but they reach out there pretty far too!

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

Parker 1 frame 20/32" with 2 7/8 chambers, choked F/F is my "long range" gun. Oh and I also have an Elsie Crown 20/32", 3" chambers, F/F that probably would qualify as well. My two Fox 20/32" don't have the long chambers but they reach out there pretty far too!

Yikes! That is quite a selection of big 20s.