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nice hunting area them guns looked great in the field...I hunted coons for many years and the biggest I ever caught was 19 1/2 lbs I have seen coons in the nortyerb states that would have been 30 lb s or better...I was at ft. drum new York years ago them coons ran in packs seen as nigh as 20 at one time.....them 8 s ant bad to tote I think its because we look at them so much we don't know were tired...charlie