Fishing and Shooting Sketches

[mobirdhunter]

I seem to recall that Cleveland owned and shot a Lefever, yes?

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

I seem to recall that Cleveland owned and shot a Lefever, yes?

I know Josh has that Lefever 8 gauge that is linked to Cleveland but he also owned a Colt 1883 8 gauge. I have heard he actually owned 2 of the Colts but never seen a source backing that up. I think Cleveland owned different brands of American doubles he mentions carrying a sub gauge gun along with fishing rod for when he saw shore birds while out fishing. I wonder if perhaps he found English guns pretentious as he seemed to held some contempt for wealthy sportsmen or I guess more accurately wealthy dandies.

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

good reading ....I have to get this book to if I can find it...old grover was quite a big man in size at least...charlie

Charlie:

The book has long been in the public domain, and is available for free (in digital form) here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3535...-h/35351-h.htm

-Victor

[Big D]

During the depression, my wife's grandfather shot robins with a BB gun as the only meat in the family's dinner. (Polish immigrant family with many kids)

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by John Dallas

During the depression, my wife's grandfather shot robins with a BB gun as the only meat in the family's dinner. (Polish immigrant family with many kids)

I have read stories that stated pretty much any animal was table fare during the depression.

[stumpstalker]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

I have read stories that stated pretty much any animal was table fare during the depression.

George Perry caught his long-time record-holding, 22-pound 4-ounce, Largemouth Bass in Montgomery Lake, Georgia, well into the Great Depression.

It was 1932. He may have considered the luxury of having his trophy Bass mounted. But what he did do was he took it home and ate it.

[Big D]

Her name looks like an explosion in a consonant factory, but is a strong family with the right values

[6pt-Sika]

The Lefever 8 that was supposed have belonged to Grover was at the Southern last year . That was the first and probably only gun owned by a president that I’ll ever have in my hands . If I’m not mistaken the Colt 8 he owned is in the NRA mueseum . Everything I’ve read on the subject of Colt 8 gauge claims that was the only 8 gage Colt ever manufactured .

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

The Lefever 8 that was supposed have belonged to Grover was at the Southern last year . That was the first and probably only gun owned by a president that I’ll ever have in my hands . If I’m not mistaken the Colt 8 he owned is in the NRA mueseum . Everything I’ve read on the subject of Colt 8 gauge claims that was the only 8 gage Colt ever manufactured .

Would be interesting to know what the weight is on the Colt and how it compares to the Lefever as it is light for a 8 ga so perhaps he favored a lighter gun. It was Ian on Forgotten Weapons that says there were 2 but again I havnt seen a source for that claim. Though it could be possible there are instances of collectors having historical guns and never talking about it. Even without the Cleveland connection that Lefever is something special.

[Hammer Gun]

Mr. Grover Cleveland, indeed was a hunter, he was the recipient of the 8 ga Colt made for him and I believe the only 8 ga made by Colt, He named the gun " Death and Destruction" I have a 20 ga hammer gun that the late Austin Hogan belived had a connection to mr Cleveland, it is also the very first 20 ga hammer gun made, a 250 or 300.00 dollar grade, but never could substantiate it . An article will be in the Double gun Journal sometimes in 2022, Gary